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From: bryanh@dadla.WR.TEK.COM (Bryan Hilterbrand)
Newsgroups: rec.birds,news.groups
Subject: Re: CALL FOR DISCUSSION: REC.PETS, REC.BIRDS division.
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Date: 10 Aug 90 18:05:31 GMT
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In article <1965@lectroid.sw.stratus.com> mm@lectroid.sw.stratus.com (Mike Mahler) writes:
>
>		2) for the renaming of rec.birds as rec.birdwatching
>		   and the joint creation of rec.pets.birds  (in other
>  		   words, if rec.birds isn't renamed, there will be no
>		   rec.pets.birds).
>
>	Michael

If people can't get along together so a new newsgroup must be created,
why don't we just leave rec.birds and make a new newsgroup called
rec.birdwatching.

One of the last million-or-so times :-( that this subject has come up,
it was pointed out that people breeding birds aren't keeping "pet" birds.
Because they aren't keeping pets, people would still occasionally post
"captive" bird subjects to rec.birds.  The non-birdwatching people seem
to be fairly tolerant of the different types of postings, so they could
stay in rec.birds.

Now, to be fair to the birdwatching people, rec.birds was originally
created specifically for people interested in birdwatching, so I can
sympathize with them about the invasion of THEIR newsgroup.  Unfortu-
nately, the newsgroup suffers from a poor choice for a name, so the
birdwatching people will NEVER be free from this discussion until a
group called rec.birdwatching is created.

The two choices I see are:

	1) The birdwatching people become tolerant of the invasion
	   of non-birdwatching postings in their newsgroup.

	2) A new newsgroup is created that is specifically and
	   undeniably aimed at birdwatching -- rec.birdwatching.

I apologize for wasting everyone's time with this posting, since I know
that nothing is likely to change when this "discussion" is finished.

Does anyone remember old Cheech and Chong records?:  "Class. CLAAASSS.
SHUUUUUUUUUUUUUT UUUUUUUUUUUUUUP!" <pause> "Thank you."

Bryan Hilterbrand

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