Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!munnari.oz.au!metro!usage.csd.unsw.oz.au!ccadfa!rim@csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au From: rim@csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au (Bob McKay) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: Can unrelated twins exist (again) Message-ID: <1796@ccadfa.adfa.oz.au> Date: 6 Aug 90 02:46:21 GMT References: <15289@reed.UUCP> Sender: news@ccadfa.adfa.oz.au Lines: 19 From article <15289@reed.UUCP>, by buckley@reed.UUCP (Ken Buckley): > To my intense surprise, the answer is a definitive no! Using some of the > responses I got, a friend and I made the following conservative(!) > estimate: approximately 10^166 humans would be needed to make this an event (unrelated twins arising by chance) > with even a remote chance of occurring. Could we have more details of the computations involved? The reason I'm asking is that I'm guessing you needed to assume independence of distribution of individual genes - presumably on the basis that unrelated humans would have independently distributed genes. But when we are talking about such astronomical numbers, it's probably not a valid assumption: for example, there may be synergistic effects on the evolutionary fitness arising from particular combinations of genes. Normally, we can afford to ignore these because the effects are likely to be small. But when we're dealing with numbers like 10^166, all bets are off. Bob McKay Phone: +61 6 268 8169 fax: +61 6 268 8581 Dept. Computer Science ACSNET,CSNET: rim@csadfa.cs.adfa.oz Aust. Defence Force Academy UUCP: ...!uunet!munnari!csadfa.cs.adfa.oz!rim Canberra ACT 2600 AUSTRALIA ARPA: rim%csadfa.cs.adfa.oz@uunet.uu.net