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From: fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (Steve Hix)
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Subject: Re: F19 vs. F117
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Date: 7 Aug 90 04:09:15 GMT
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From: fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (Steve Hix)

> From: wb9omc@ea.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick)
> >From: adrian@cs.heriot-watt.ac.uk (Adrian Hurt)
> >10: ?
> 	OHHHH, how soon we forget.  A10 Thunderbolt II, Republic/Fairchild

Not a fighter...

> >11: ?
> 	F11 Tiger.  I don't recall who made it.  I think this was the
> 	first carrier-borne supersonic fighter.  The Blue Angels

Grumman.  F11F1 Super Tiger incorporated area rule (coke bottle shape)
and performed somewhat better.

> ========================================================================
> P26: ???official name I don't recall, known as the Pea-Shooter.  This
> 	was an early monoplane fighter.

Boeing.  First USAAF monoplane fighter.

> P43: Lancer, Republic. I think saw some limited action in the Pacific
> 	during early WWII.  Pretty well outclassed.

(Republic grew from de Seversky's old firm.)  P-43 didn't see service with
USAAF, most exported for foreign service.  For a while the French, Chinese,
etc., would buy anything with wings and guns.


> F82: Twin Mustang, North American.  An exception to the rule that
> 	says kluging doesn't work.  The F82 was two P51's joined
> 	at the wing and tail; made a dandy ground support aircraft.

Nope.  (I got toasted on this one a long time ago.)  It *looks* like
two Mustangs, but the wing size/shape is different, and the fuselage(s)
are somewhat different, longer, mostly.  Using Merlins (or Allisons),
and the same sort of belly scoop makes it very similar, though.

> XF85: Goblin, can't recall the builder.  Was a parasite designed to
> 	be deployed from a B36 Peacemaker on a trapeze assembly.

McDonnell.  Bashed canopy into trapeze when trying mid-air hookup,
airplane crashlanded on dry lake.

> F89: Scorpion, don't remember who made this one.

Northrop.  First all-weather fighter-interceptor jet.  No guns, lots of
unguided rockets.  Might have worked if you got close enough.

> XF92: Whoo, boy....can't remember the name of this one but it was
> 	sort of the original Convair Delta-wing fighter vehicle.

Launched from water off hydrofoils.  Exploded during test flight, data
led to design of F-102.

>F101: Voodoo, McDonell/Douglas, I think.  This was based, I think,
>        upon the Xf-99(88???)....but don't quote me on that.

Pre-Douglas merge.  Based on XF-88 earlier.

> F107: I keep thinking that this was a Northrop creation called a
> 	Cobra.  Never sold to anybody, that I know of.  Wierdest
> 	looking thing.....
North American.  Updated F-100.  No service.

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