Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!umich!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!dali.cs.montana.edu!milton!gbnewby@rodan.acs.syr.edu From: gbnewby@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Gregory B. Newby) Newsgroups: sci.virtual-worlds Subject: Re: "Space" Keywords: space, reality, positivism Message-ID: <9008062357.AA21674@rodan.acs.syr.edu> Date: 6 Aug 90 23:57:40 GMT Sender: hlab@milton.u.washington.edu Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY Lines: 36 Approved: hitl@hardy.u.washington.edu In <9007250107.AA01311@hitl.vrnet.washington.edu> william@hitl.vrnet.washington.edu (William Bricken) writes: >In reference to the nature of SPACE: (etc. etc.) William: I liked the summary you posted. Could you elaborate on each of the varieties of space, and possibly provide some references? How do concepts like euclidian/non-euclidian space, isomorphic/anisopmorphic space, and metric/non-metric space get fit into your propositions? What philosophical notions of "reality" might be implied here? I see signs of classic positivism in the makings here, complete with an Aristotelian category system (category systems are bad news, as soon as you start to do any categorizing with them). For that matter, what sorts of assumptions about reality are made by we virtual- cyber-spacers? Yes, people can make their own realities: that, we offer them. Are you willing to grant the un-realness of the reality you usually live in, in favor of a virtual one? This is an important question, potentially: If someone is a king of worlds in his/her virtual reality, and not much of anyone in my reality, does this make him/her less of a king? Oh: I could also use a summary of _Laws of Form_, or more elaboration on Indicative space -- this one wasn't clear. I'm concerned that anything is claimed as "elementary" without some more substantiation (and even then, I'm concerned). Keep posting. -- Greg Newby gbnewby@rodan.acs.syr.edu School of Information Studies gbnewby@sunrise.bitnet Syracuse University "Curiouser and curiouser" -Alice