Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: jow@pacbell.com (Jeff Westman) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Mary's Virginity & Jesus's Siblings Message-ID: Date: 5 Aug 90 23:44:22 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA Lines: 14 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article jhpb@granjon.garage.att.com writes: > The passages in St. Paul that say "all have sinned" deal with the > universality of the original sin, not personal sin. Obviously, since > the babies of his time were not guilty of any personal sin, since they > had not the use of reason yet. So the only sense in which they could be > said to have sinned is through Adam, via the original sin. Joe, where do you get this?! I do not see how you can say that "all have sinned" does not apply to personal sin. What about 1 Jn 1:10, "If we say we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us." We might as well throw out 95% of our Bibles then. -- Jeff