Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: bgsuvax!kutz@cis.ohio-state.edu (Kenneth J. Kutz) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Importance of sacrifice Message-ID: Date: 8 Aug 90 07:21:52 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh. Lines: 43 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu Our moderator comments on John Warren's posting: > If the Catholic concept is of not so much a new sacrifice, but that we > are mystically brought into contact with Christ's original sacrifice, > then the difference is not quite as drastic as might be supposed, > though there is certainly still a difference. It seems that as > elsewhere when dealing with eucharistic theology, the primary > difference is in the degree of literalness with which we take Christ's > presence. Catholics believe that Christ's body is physically present. > It seems somehow consistent with this to see the Mass as involving the > worshipper more directly in Christ's sacrifice. --clh] If the elements of the Lord's supper are literally the body and blood of Jesus, would it follow that Jesus still suffers at every mass or not necessarily? What is the Catholic view of this? If the answer is no, why not if the host is *literally* Christ's body? If the answer is yes, please defend the answer in light of the following passage from the book of Hebrews: "Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with the blood that is not his own. Then Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But now he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. Just as man is destined to die once and after that judgement, so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of may people..." Specifically, this passage indicates that Christ is not suffering many times and also states that he has appeared once for all. If the bread and wine do not merely symbolize Christ's body and blood but literally are one and the same, wouldn't if follow that the suffering is still continuing (at each Mass) and that he is literally reappearing (more than once vs. once for all) as the elements are brought forth? Thank you for sharing. -- Kenneth J. Kutz Internet kutz@andy.bgsu.edu Systems Programmer BITNET KUTZ@ANDY University Computer Services UUCP ...!osu-cis!bgsuvax!kutz Bowling Green State Univ. US Mail 238 Math Science, BG OH 43403