Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!bacchus.pa.dec.com!granite.pa.dec.com!mwm From: mwm@raven.pa.dec.com (Mike (Real Amigas have keyboard garages) Meyer) Newsgroups: alt.sources.amiga Subject: Re: Amiga Blues Message-ID: Date: 14 Aug 90 19:01:42 GMT References: <20260001@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com> <1037@flash.UUCP> <13697@cbmvax.commodore.com> <1045@flash.UUCP> <138.26c18ff6@intersil.uucp> <1056@flash.UUCP> Sender: news@wrl.dec.com (News) Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica Lines: 55 In-Reply-To: klg@flash.UUCP's message of 14 Aug 90 01:46:02 GMT In article <1056@flash.UUCP> klg@flash.UUCP (Kevin L. Gross) writes: And before you flame me for more "whining", it was a full year or more after I bought my 1000, before I could get ANY worthwhile software for the Amiga, except maybe from EA. And they don't do nuthin but games that I'm aware of... You're not very aware. Then again, that's been apparent since your second post. EA has a fair number of productivity tools on the market, with names like Deluxe XYZZY. Deluxe Paint was available from day one. I got my C compiler before the end of March, 86 - and it only took that long because the things had sold out at the local dealer. Hardware was available, but it cost a fortune because of the small customer base. And as I said before, it didn't all work together. Neither of which is CBM's fault. And, if you were more aware, you'd realize that _everything_ you complain about (as opposed to what you report hearing from vendors, many of whom are apparently either lieing, or as badly informed as you are) for the Amiga was true for every other machine when it was released, unless it was compatable with some previous machine so that there was a pre-existing software and/or hardware base. You did something daring - you bought a new machine that had no existing customer, support, hardware, or software base. Expecting it to develop any of those overnight, and expecting products in them to be anywhere near as cheap as machines that had been around for years, is at best naive. Those who knew what they were getting into are mostly happy, though not completely so. However, over the years, we've seen a number of people who bought Amigas when they were new who then bitched that they weren't everything an IBM PC was. That's sort of like complaing because you it's harder to get parts for your Ferrari than for a Ford. It's obvious you're going to have that problem, and there's no one to blame for not seeing it but yourself. Most of those whiners finally either shut up when the software they wanted appeared, or went out and bought machines that suited their needs. The hardware and software you want is certainly out there. Yes, it's going to cost more than for an IBM PC or a Mac if it's going to work well (as opposed to the way the IBM and Mac stuff works). You want quality, you gotta pay for it. You want cheap, then you're going to have headaches. Remember, you never get more than two of the following three: good, fast, cheap. And it's hard to even get two.