Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!samsung!munnari.oz.au!bruce!frank From: frank@bruce.cs.monash.OZ.AU (Frank Breen) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: The Turing Test is no good! Message-ID: <2860@bruce.cs.monash.OZ.AU> Date: 13 Aug 90 09:01:19 GMT Distribution: comp Organization: Monash Uni. Computer Science, Australia Lines: 32 Well this turned out to be a bit rambling and I don't think that it has any thing particularly revolutionary in it but I think it may be a different way of thinking about it that some of you haven't considered. On the other hand this kind of posting could well turn up in this group every few months. Anyway here goes: To me the turing test only tests if a computer can imitate human intelligence (and presumably human thought). I'm not convinced that it is a good idea to have an AI that is so close to being human. If computers can do all the thinking that people can (and presumably better) then what's the point in any humans thinking. We would be reduced to being amused by the AI's (presuming they're nice) and all usefull thought would be done by the AI's. What AI should do is let us humans keep doing what we're good at and let the AI's do what they are better at. Of course the AI's will take over many task's performed by humans but hopefully some will remain. I suppose eventually it is quite likely that AI's will surpass human thought in all respects - and who knows what will happen then. I guess I can't help being a bit frightened by the prospect of becoming obsolete but I still wouldn't want to slow down progress. The point is that the Turing test seems to me to be somewhat contrived and meaningless. There are many things that computers can do that people can't and it would be impossible for a person to pass an AI's version of the turing test - but it doesn't mean a great deal. AI's should be measured by their usefulness not their likeness to people. Frank Breen