Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!samsung!munnari.oz.au!metro!natmlab.dap.csiro.au!ditsydh.syd.dit.CSIRO.AU!reynolds From: reynolds@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (Chris.Reynolds) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: The Turing Test is no good! Keywords: Turing, Intelligence Message-ID: <1990Aug16.234419.24210@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU> Date: 16 Aug 90 23:44:19 GMT References: <2870@bruce.cs.monash.OZ.AU> <3211@gara.une.oz.au> <36163@ut-emx.UUCP> Sender: reynolds@syd.dit.csiro.au (Chris Reynolds) Distribution: comp Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia Lines: 27 > Can anyone out there suggest further basic criteria of intelligence? The only > other things I can think of at the moment involve the machine's ability to > judge when it is and when it is not appropriate to apply creative means in > its thought processes. Other possibilites would seem to be limited to > criteria applied to the knowledge-base, but I'm not sure what nature > such would take. Surely intelligence, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder, and any attempt to get a single unambigious definition is about as fruitless as the medieval alchemists trying to find the philosopher's stone. Intelligence represents little more than a measure of position in the pecking- order of success in the society subgroup in which it is observed. If you are an academic working on artificial intelligence research, a profound knowledge of philosophy or formal mathematics will increase your intelligence as seen by your colleagues - which will be even higher if you combine both attributes. However most A.I. researchers would have considerable survival problems if they suddenly found themselves, for example, on their own, miles from anywhere, in the Australian outback. May I suggest that a useful common factor of inteligence (in as far as there can be one shared by Western academics, Buddist monks, and tribes from the Brazilian jungle) is the ability to cope with ignorance - i.e. the ability to rapidly adapt behaviour to met, and possibly exploit, unanticipated features of the perceived environment. Chris Reynolds