Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken!rogue.llnl.gov!oberman From: oberman@rogue.llnl.gov Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco Subject: Re: Dealing with remote routers Message-ID: <1990Aug17.074457.1@rogue.llnl.gov> Date: 17 Aug 90 14:44:57 GMT References: <24867@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Sender: usenet@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV Lines: 22 In article <24867@boulder.Colorado.EDU>, satz@cisco.com (Greg Satz) writes: > The real question here is why are unreachables having such a deleterious > effect on your operation? Those messages shouldn't cause any problem on a > properly functioning TCP/IP implementation. We have "fixed" the problematic > systems which reacted badly to ICMP unreachables here because we couldn't > live with that behavior. Greg, The problem is that under 4.3BSD (Tahoe), when an ICMP host/net unavailable message is received, all sessions to the effected node are terminated. And Tahoe implementations are VERY common around here. While I don't know if it's our cisco, we have been having problems with this here. Attempts by remote sites to get large files from Tahoe systems often fail with reachability errors. I'm told the Reno release "fixes" this by not making an unreachable a fatal condition unless it persists. I hope to have my software patched to work this way in a couple of week or so. But, in the meantime, it's a real pain. R. Kevin Oberman Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Internet: oberman@icdc.llnl.gov (415) 422-6955