Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!orc!olivea!apple!hayes From: hayes@Apple.COM (Jim Hayes) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk Subject: AppleTalk Internet Router Performance (was: Re: phase 2 with CAP/KIP) Message-ID: <44035@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 16 Aug 90 20:15:58 GMT References: <2687293@AppleLink.Apple.COM> <1990Aug9.134900.215@cs.utk.edu> <66709@coherent.coherent.com> <1990Aug16.173333.1050@cs.utk.edu> Organization: Apple Computer Inc., ECO Networking Group Lines: 55 Regarding the Apple Internet Router, Wolfgang Naegeli (wnn@ornl.gov) writes: >How limited is the throughput if I run it on a IIfx? I suspect it might >beat a FastPath, GatorBox, or MultiGate. LocalTalk to LocalTalk -and- LocalTalk to EtherTalk -and- LocalTalk to TokenTalk on the Mac IIx *and above* route at the same speeds. This is simply because LocalTalk is the bottleneck, so an fx is probably overkill here... You get about 12k/sec routing LocalTalk to LocalTalk You get about 22k/sec routing LocalTalk to TokenTalk you get about 23k/sec routing LocalTalk to Ethernet The ONLY tangible improvement the IIfx gives you is better interactive performance if you have a router running in the background. This is because the IIfx uses one of its dedicated I/O processors to do all the LocalTalk transmission instead of the 68030. You start to see some speed improvement when you start routing EtherTalk and TokenTalk. Since the TokenTalk card has its own on board I/O processor, you won't see much improvement from a Mac IIx and up. Perhaps 3k/sec more as the processor can set stuff up faster. You get about 70-80k/sec routing TokenTalk to TokenTalk For Ethertalk, the difference is quite significant. You get about 100-105k/sec routing TokenTalk to EtherTalk on the IIx and above. EtherTalk-EtherTalk: Mac II: ~160k/sec. (We use lots of these at Apple) Mac IIx/cx ~175k/sec. Mac IIci ~200k/sec. (We use some of these at Apple) Mac IIfx ~250k/sec. The above numbers are unofficial maximum performance measures. You milage may vary. --- Several major high-performance router manufacturers have announced support for AppleTalk routing in their products. If your network already has high-performance routers, adding AppleTalk support should just be a software upgrade away... This is by far the cheapest way to add AppleTalk to an existing high-performance network. -- Jim Hayes, AppleTalk-TCP/IP Weenie Advanced Technology Group, Apple Computer Inc. Inet: hayes@apple.com UUCP: {amdcad|decwrl|ames}!apple!hayes