Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!aplcen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!ucbvax!hplabs!otter.hpl.hp.com!otter!csi From: csi@otter.hpl.hp.com (Colin I'Anson) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso Subject: Re: X509 breaks presentation level layering Message-ID: <3680003@otter.hpl.hp.com> Date: 15 Aug 90 14:31:42 GMT References: <9008072131.AA18982@ocfmail.ocf.llnl.gov> Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK. Lines: 15 Yes, your analysis is correct with the X.509 macros that use cryptographic manipulations on the encoded ASN.1. At the time there was no alternative other than to invent a new type of ASN.1 encoding that would ensure the digitial signature operation would work. Although this appears like a defect, it is a pointer to the new encoding rules that are being worked on. I can't remember all the names but there will be one to deal with the problem X.509 identified. The method used will probably not satisify the religious zealots but I can verify from experience that you can build a practical X.400 (1988) secure messaging system using these macros and associated encoding rule restrictions. Colin I'Anson - HP Labs Bristol