Xref: utzoo comp.robotics:325 comp.lsi:1163 sci.electronics:13535 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!rpi!dali.cs.montana.edu!milton!whit From: whit@milton.u.washington.edu (John Whitmore) Newsgroups: comp.robotics,comp.lsi,sci.electronics Subject: Re: velocity sensing for robotic joints Summary: Linear Variable Differential Transformer Keywords: LVDT Message-ID: <6273@milton.u.washington.edu> Date: 14 Aug 90 01:40:48 GMT References: <19481@well.sf.ca.us> <140483@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> <8441@ccncsu.ColoState.EDU> Distribution: all Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Lines: 32 In article <8441@ccncsu.ColoState.EDU> jn163051@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Joel Nevison) writes: > >I have seen this implemented on a GCA stepper as velocity feedback to >prevent the auto-focus from oscillating. They called it an LVTD which >I believe stands for linear velocity difference transducer? Correct me >someone. I don't believe the coil was energized, I think they had a >magnet moving inside. There is a position-measuring device called LVDT (Linear Variable Differential Transformer) which is used to measure distance displacement. Our machine shop has a gage using this sort of cell that gives about one microinch resolution. For velocity measurement, we use a Hewlett-Packard gizmo that looks similar, but the bead in the center is a permanent magnet; it is called an LV-Syn, or sometimes LVT (Linear Velocity Transducer). Our machine does Mossbauer measurements, requiring control of velocity to one part in 1000 of 1 mm/sec velocities. It works fine. I have seen similar linear velocity transducers (basically it's just a linear generator) in large hard disk drives, in the head assembly, also presumably to control seek speeds. Unfortunately, this sort of device fails at LOW velocities because of its inductive output impedance; the signal/noise ratio can be guaranteed worse than any given value for some sufficiently small velocity. Creep of the system becomes a problem (so the disk drives had ANOTHER feedback mechanism to control absolute positions). Since the original question was about controlling a rotational velocity (like in an arm joint), I wonder why no one has suggested looking at the motor's back EMF; it gives the same information as a separate electric generator would, and it's ALREADY built in. John Whitmore