Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!metro!pta!yarra!melba.bby.oz.au!leo!zvs From: zvs@bby.oz.au (Zev Sero) Newsgroups: comp.society.futures Subject: Re: Feedback on Computer Crime - Apology Message-ID: <1990Aug16.072922.26029@melba.bby.oz.au> Date: 16 Aug 90 07:29:22 GMT References: <90224.202102POPOVICH@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu> <9008131552.AA27315@world.std.com> Sender: news@melba.bby.oz.au Organization: Burdett, Buckeridge and Young Ltd. Lines: 27 In-Reply-To: bzs@world.std.com's message of 13 Aug 90 15:52:30 GMT In article <9008131552.AA27315@world.std.com> bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes: As an analogy, imagine if some broadcast radio or tv station programming could be "stolen" by anyone by merely tuning in that channel? I realize that this is a problem with satellite dishes, but again the analogy is strained in that case by the prerequisite of a thousand or more dollars in satellite dish etc equipment. The ease of copying a floppy begs a clear analogy, and the analogy is far more clear if we stick to the simple case of anyone with a cheap radio being considered criminal for merely turning to a station on the dial without paying some fee. There's no doubt that this can be argued as immoral or even illegal. In Australia until the mid 70s you needed a license to own a radio or TV set. The proceeds from license fees (annually renewable) went to fund the ABC. I believe that in the UK this is still the case. It is illegal to tune in to *any* station, not just the BBC, without paying a fee to the BBC. Wierd, but not illegal, and I don't recall any major public outcry about its immorality. -- Zev Sero - zvs@bby.oz.au Violence is not a pleasant thing. It has caused much suffering in the world since its invention, and many are convinced that it is Quite A Bad Thing. - Steven Megachiropter Foster