Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!ucbvax!BIRK.CS.CHALMERS.SE!bernerus From: bernerus@BIRK.CS.CHALMERS.SE (Christer Bernerus) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew Subject: Observations on ATK, PL6. Message-ID: Date: 16 Aug 90 07:22:39 GMT Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 81 Thanks for the latest patch. It finally got me to build ATK on our sparc's. Here's what I've found so far: 0. Someone didn't compress patch 6 on emsworth. I think this shoul be done. We're only getting about 700 bytes/sec ftp here! 1. Building ATK worked out almost OK, it didn't take so long (maybe bacuse I ran it on a SUN4/490). 1.1. Building atk/ness/doc doesn't work. I got the following message: building (dependInstall) (/ufs/e/andrew/atk/ness/doc) make DESTDIR=/usr/pd/andrew install Checking Destination Directories.... touch install.time (ANDREWDIR=/usr/pd/andrew; export ANDREWDIR; \ CLASSPATH=/usr/pd/andrew/dlib/atk; export CLASSPATH; \ WMHOST=; \ /usr/pd/andrew/bin/nessrun present.n nessauth.d) Starting nessrun (Version 1.3, ATK 15.0); please wait... sh: 19030 Memory fault - core dumped *** Error code 139 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `nessauth.doc' Current working directory /ufs/e/andrew/atk/ness/doc *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall' Current working directory /ufs/e/andrew/atk/ness/doc *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall' 1.2 Building ATK without putting the result in "/usr/andrew" fails in overhead/class/testing since the Imakefile specifies MAKEDOFLAGS=-b ../cmd -g which overrides the standard definition which in my case is MAKEDOFLAGS = ${MAKEDODEBUG} -d ${BASEDIR}/lib -b ${BASEDIR}/bin maybe the Imakefile definition should be MAKEDOFLAGS= -d ${BASEDIR}/lib -b ../cmd -g at least this worked for me. 2. Testing the stuff revealed that messages doesn't work at all: piggy> messages Starting messages (Version 7.14, ATK 15.0); please wait... Illegal instruction (core dumped) 3. Help dies if you do the following: piggy> help compchar Starting help (Version 7.2, ATK 15.0); please wait... Now select the words: Composites File Format a bit into the text. Choose "Show help on selected word" and watch the show. It appears as if you select anything bold and then choose Show help on selected word, help dies immediately. 4. Reading the info about compchar makes me confused: How do I specify an argument to a proc in a *init file ? The "ascii" field in the Composites File Format section isn't described, only specified in the syntax. I may guess it's use since I've been involved a bit in the matter of composed characters, but I bet others will be confused. I'd also have wanted to see more examples in the Quick reference section. Btw. I found out about the extistence of compchar by reading the RCS diffs in patch.08r. I found no file telling me what functional changes have been made to ATK with the 2.1 Mbyte sized patch #6. 5. It seems to me (by reading the manual) that there is no way to specify a default translation of ascii to ATK without having to answer at least one question. We had this possibility with Tom's "swedish" proc's. But now this seems to be gone. Is there maybe another (undocumented) argument to ASCIIToATK that enable me to design a menu entry which does what I usually want to do. I.e. translating a piece of swedish ascii text (with {}|'s) to the real stuff and back again without having to answer silly questions (since I'm always knowing what I'm doing :-) . Well, that's all for now. Chris. bernerus@cs.chalmers.se