Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!ukc!edcastle!tkld From: tkld@castle.ed.ac.uk (K Davidson) Newsgroups: comp.std.internat Subject: Re: Code Page Conversion Keywords: hhcp NIFTP JANET coloured book Message-ID: <5788@castle.ed.ac.uk> Date: 17 Aug 90 11:52:53 GMT References: <1991@enea.se> <5681@castle.ed.ac.uk> <1740@hugo.erbe.se> Organization: EPCC, Edinburgh University Lines: 44 In article <1740@hugo.erbe.se> prc@erbe.se (Robert Claeson) writes: >In article <5681@castle.ed.ac.uk>, yfcw14@castle.ed.ac.uk (K P Donnelly) writes: > >> I find that I can send 8-bit mail messages over the UK JANET network >> to and from VAX/VMS machines without trouble. However, it seems that if >> mail goes anywhere near a Unix machine it gets the eighth bit stripped. >> The trouble seems to be the file transfer utility hhcp. > >I assume that with "hhcp" you mean "uucp". Uucp doesn't strip anything. >One can send binary files using uucp (this is how we get our 'news'). >I believe that the problem lies in "sendmail", especially as implemented >on many UNIX systems running BSD UNIX. Many System V UNIXes that comes >with sendmail does allow 8 bit characters. No, he really does mean hhcp. JANET does not use TCP/IP or uucp, it has its own ``coloured book'' protocols, one of which is NIFTP (I forget the colour) for transfering files. This is what hhcp uses. hhcp -b8 file remote:file might work, but most Unix utilities that deal with rs232 lines seem to have 7bit braindamage all the way through them. Get hold of a uu{en,de}code that compiles on a VMS system and encode your mail. ( Horrible isn't it :-( ) >-- >Robert Claeson |Reasonable mailers: rclaeson@erbe.se >ERBE DATA AB | Dumb mailers: rclaeson%erbe.se@sunet.se > | Perverse mailers: rclaeson%erbe.se@encore.com >These opinions reflect my personal views and not those of my employer (ask him). I have to add this because Pnews complains. What idiot wrote this? :-( -- .Kevin. || || ...and he did not think it too many.