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From: joseph@valnet.UUCP (Joseph Hillenburg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re:  NoiseTracker V2.0 out!
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Date: 14 Aug 90 06:42:20 GMT
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S36666WB@ETSUACAD.BITNET (Brian Wright) writes:

> On 11 Aug 90 21:16:22 GMT you said:
> >In article <9008111912.AA01990@jade.berkeley.edu> S36666WB@ETSUACAD.BITNET
> >(Brian Wright) writes:
> >>     I have a few comments & questions about Noistracker and it's so-called
> >>commercial release.  First,  since Noisetracker was based on Soundtracker
> >[...]
> >>If this is the case how can a HACKED version of an original release become
> >>commercial?  First the original author must agree to this.
> 
> >It can't.  ALL the 'hacked' copies are an infringment of the rights of the
> >original author.
> 
> It can't what?  Be released as a commercial product?   If NT 2.0 is a BETA
> of a commercial release then who is releasing it?  Is the original author of
> The Ultimate Soundtracker releasing it?  If not then it can't be released
> as commercial anything to anybody according to what you have just said.
> That's to bad too.  From what I have seen of Soundtracker and NoiseTracker
> they would make excellent products.
> 
> I don't condone what the hackers did but the results of their efforts (no
> matter how immoral) are here.  It would be nice to see the original author of
> The Ultimate Soundtracker allow these programs at least the right to survive
> in PD form (or even shareware with donations given to the original author).
> 
> >Whatever these 'authors' did was illegal, and as far as rights they have
> >NOTHING.  Modifying original code does NOT give ANY rights to the one
> >making the modifications. This is known as "modification of pre-existing
> >material", and all rights on the modifications are maintained by the
> >original author.  In fact, all these thieves (I like that better than pirate
> >because that IS what they are) are fully liable for copyright infringement.
> >
> >-- Marco
> >--
> >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> >"Xerox sues somebody for copying?" -- David Letterman
> >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> 
> As you have pointed out the Hacker/Code Modifiers (Thieves as you call them)
> would then not get any compensation for the PD or shareware programs.  Perhap
> even to remove the names of the Hackers off the programs before placing them
> into PD or shareware.  Perhaps we should support MED 2.0 instead.  That
> piece of software has NO controversy associated with it and has the source co
> included.  It's also on a Fred Fish disk.  It supports MIDI as well.
> 
> By the way, will there be ANY Soundtracker/MED type programs that WILL work o
> the 3000?  Commercial, PD or Shareware?  Thanks in advance....
> 
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I agree...We should start useing MED. After all, MED is better yhan 
SoundTracker AND NoiseTracker, and it is ALMOST 100% compatible. Plus, it 
has MIDI and can read SoundFX files. (It might read SMUS, but I havent 
tried it yet...

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