Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!decwrl!apple!vsi1!zorch!xanthian From: xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware Subject: WHICH 1084 Fix? (Re: 2002 popping) Message-ID: <1990Aug13.111924.563@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> Date: 13 Aug 90 11:19:24 GMT References: <8015@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> <1179@tardis.Tymnet.COM> Organization: SF Bay Public-Access Unix Lines: 58 In article <1179@tardis.Tymnet.COM> jms@tardis.Tymnet.COM (Joe Smith) writes: >In article <8015@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> bgribble@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Bill Gribble) writes: >>I have a C2002 monitor on my A500 which is apparently subject to the >> well-discussed 1084 popping effect. There is one difference, though: >> when the monitor pops, it turns itself off. > >My A2002 turned itself off once after snapping. After about the 20th "snap!", >I went in and applied the 1084 fix to it. No more popping. WHICH 1084 fix? I've seen one fix discription that attributes the problem to a metal tab (under part of the hardware) allowing arcing between components, and suggesting cutting off/grinding off the tab and cleaning arc sputter residue from the area, and another description that attributes the problem to lack of a ground path to discharge accumulated ambient static charge where the arcing is occurring, and suggesting as a fix installing a ground strap to short the two modules together and to ground. (Please forgive that these descriptions are not very precise, I'm going from memory.) While it is possible for both these to be true, applying the second "fix" with (lots of electronic repair experience but) no knowledge of the circuitry has scared me enough to keep me from even opening the cases on my two popping 1084s (one for A1000, one for A2000) to fix a problem that has been occurring for five years now in the case of my A1000 system. And I still think Commodore should issue a recall for _all_ the monitors subject to these problems and fix them at their own expense. It is an obvious, widely reported problem due to a design flaw, and they should demonstrate a little commercial responsibility and loyalty to their customers and FIX THEIR MISTAKES. Cheerfully, and without the thousands of nagging articles reporting the problem. I am dumbfounded that CBM managed to release the 2002 series of monitors without fixing the problem at the design level. They had, after all, years of reports on the net and in the trade press reporting the problem. Why didn't they fix it (or insist their source of monitors fix it if they purchase Amiga monitors ready made), rather than foist another generation of faulty hardware off on their customer base? That wasa another great way to convince the business world to treat Commodore and the systems it offers for sale as a two punchline joke, and thus to stay away in droves, guys. Are CBM convinced all of the folks on the net reporting the problem for years before the 2002 was released were lying just for the fun of posting yet another dig at Commodore? IS ANYBODY LISTENING, CBM? Do you care what the reputation this kind of stupidity earns you does for your sales? Kent, the man from xanth.