Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!decwrl!ucbvax!lsuc.on.ca!smd From: smd@lsuc.on.ca (Sean Doran) Newsgroups: comp.sys.att Subject: Re: Sys V 3.2.1 online man pages Message-ID: <9008191542.AA16583@lsuc.on.ca> Date: 19 Aug 90 19:42:56 GMT References: <1990Aug17.161215.2291@lsuc.on.ca> <13614@smoke.BRL.MIL> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 49 In article <13614@smoke.BRL.MIL>, gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn) shoots from the hip and writes: >In article <1990Aug17.161215.2291@lsuc.on.ca> jim@lsuc.on.ca (Jim Mercer) writes: >>we are a Sys V 3.2.1 license holder. >>i have been told by our AT&T Source Code Sales rep that there are _no_ >>online man pages for release 3.2. > >They are certainly not covered by the UNIX System V license. >It is possible that (as with older releases) they may be licensed separately. The Law Society of Upper Canada is an educational source-licencee with separate licences for v7 and SVr3.2, both of which includes all sources and documentation related to the operating systems and utilities. We have all the V7 man pages archived on our (now unused) V7 machine, and we have all 30 kg of the printed manual sets. We understand that we do have the right under the licence agreement with AT&T Canada to possess the nroff source to the full reference manual set. Perhaps Mr Gwyn was under the impression that this was not the case. >>as a license holder, is there anyone out there who will arrange to get these >>to me? > >You shouldn't ask people to commit a federal crime in so public a forum. Perhaps Mr Gwyn is also under the impression that lsuc.on.ca is the Law Society of Upper California in Ontario, California, USA. In fact, this is not the case; we are in Canada, where the unauthorised possession of copyrighted materials is a civil offence, not a criminal one. More to the point, it is hardly an offence even under twisty U.S. laws to provide a copy of something one licencee legally holds to another licencee with similar rights to possess a copy. I just wonder whether Mr Gwyn will retire from the military into AT&T's legal department, where they are not yet nearly as 'shoot from the hip, and maybe ask questions later' as he and BRL seem to be. At any rate, if there are any sites which legally hold nroff sources to the reference man pages for System Vr3.2 in Canada or elsewhere (assuming they may export it without the types like Gwyn in the American department of Trade and Export Restrictions breathing down their necks) who has copies of these things which AT&T Canada seem not to have in stock, then jim@lsuc.ON.CA would be interested in knowing about it. -- Sean Doran (or, more slowly ) and /C=CANADA/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/ID=ICS.TEST/S=TESTGROUP/@nasamail.nasa.gov