Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!mcgill-vision!snorkelwacker!bloom-beacon!primerd!ENI!S55!CUMMINGS From: CUMMINGS@S55.Prime.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: Re: Mice - what do I want? Message-ID: <1249900002@S55.Prime.COM> Date: 15 Aug 90 16:58:00 GMT References: <15319@reed.UUCP> Lines: 57 Nf-ID: #R:reed.UUCP:-1531900:S55:1249900002:000:2991 Nf-From: S55.Prime.COM!CUMMINGS Aug 15 16:58:00 1990 /* Written 11:54 am Aug 9, 1990 by minar@reed.UUCP in S55:comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware */ /* ---------- "Mice - what do I want?" ---------- */ I am a little bewildered at the choice of mice out there. Foremost, what is the difference between a bus mouse and a serial mouse? One assumes that a bus mouse plugs into the bus (with its own adapter), while a serial mouse plugs into a serial port. Seeing as how I do not own a serial port, why should I not get a bus mouse? Do bus mice work equally well in ATs and XTs? (I have an AT). Do I need to worry about what sort of driver I get to go with the mouse? Are they all the same? Does a trackball mouse exist for the IBM? How much should I pay? Thank you. /* End of text from S55:comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware */ I recently bought a new mouse for my PC. I went with a Mouse Systems Optical mouse, bus version. Surprise! Their "bus" mouse is their serial mouse with a dedicated serial port (not using COM1, COM2, COM3, or COM4). For the $10 extra I spent on the "bus" version, the serial port was well worth it! The mouse came with a "dynamic tracking" driver, and configuration software to help you find an unused interrupt on your machine. It will try and use IRQ 3 or 4 unless you already have COM ports installed. Then it avoids those, and tries others. The serial card can use some AT IRQ lines and thus is a "16 bit" card, but it only uses 8 data lines, and if you limit yourself to the first 8 IRQ lines, will run just fine in an XT machine. I paid ~$100 for my new mouse, but I knew I was also paying for a GOOD mouse. (SUN and VISUAL are among the corporations that use Mouse-Systems optical mice on their workstations/X-Terminals). The only problem I have with the MSM is that while the CGA programming necessities are built into the mouse driver (all you have to do is turn the cursor on), you can't write EGA/VGA code that uses the mouse without buying the MSM developers package. (My understanding is that programs which use the mouse in EGA/VGA modes need to keep track of some screen information that is write-only in the adapter, thus the need for extra software). The hooks to use the libraries is in the mouse driver already (I have no problem running EGA/VGA programs that support the MS mouse with the MSM mouse driver), you just can't write your own programs without the extra package. ============================================================================ Kevin J. Cummings Prime Computer Inc. 20 Briarwood Road 500 Old Connecticut Path Framingham, Mass. Framingham, Mass. InterNet: CUMMINGS@S55.Prime.COM CSNet: CUMMINGS%S55.Prime.COM@RELAY.CS.NET UUCP: {uunet, csnet-relay}!S55.Prime.COM!CUMMINGS Std. Disclaimer: "Mr. McKittrick, after careful consideration, I've come to the conclusion that your new defense system SUCKS..." ============================================================================