Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!grian!alex From: alex@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us (Alex Pournelle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Instantaneous Printing: Is There Such A Thing? Keywords: Nope, Sorry, EXPENSIVE Message-ID: <1990Aug14.095812.27141@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us> Date: 14 Aug 90 09:58:12 GMT References: <1990Aug12.192507.25547@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> <3700@nisca.ircc.ohio-state.edu> Organization: Workman & Associates Lines: 37 gaynor@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Jim Gaynor) writes: >In article <1990Aug12.192507.25547@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> yip@mcgill-vision.uucp (McGill/CONCAVE Group) writes: >>[...] take approx. forever (30 mins.+) to print, such as PageMaker > The closest thing to "instantaneous printing" that you could >buy would most likely not only be out of your price range, >[The] computer sends to the printer is the raw postscript data. >[explanation that TANSTAAFL, and PostScript doubly so] Hate to complain, but the protocol overhead on dear 'ol' PostScript and especially LocalTalk is a major factor, here. On a solo Se/30 connected to a 68020-based NEC SilentWriter, it still takes for-freaking EVER just to transfer the job to the printer. Some of that is the silliness of converting bitmaps to an ASCII-palatable format, shovelling that over L/T and then re-bitmapping (a wart promised to disappear with P/S version ][ or whatever it'll be called), but the protocol overhead of L/T and background printing is pretty heavy too. One man's opinion. But having used a IIfx with a IINTX all the way down to an Plus with a L/J I, I feel strongly about it! (Not to say it's much better on the PC side. I spent a 1/2 hour on the phone to MicroSoft today about Windows 3.0 print "speed" and lack thereof. Oi. The best cure is to spoof the driver by sending output to LPT1.PRN or LPT1.OS2. Riiiight. Now I'm s'posed to get all this stuff working on a Mac plus PC over Novell network? Geez, I hope they pay me.) Doggedly, Alex -- Alex Pournelle, freelance thinker Also: Workman & Associates, Data recovery for PCs, Macs, others ...elroy!grian!alex; BIX: alex; voice: (818) 791-7979 fax: (818) 794-2297 bbs: 791-1013; 8N1 24/12/3