Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!ucsd!ucbvax!IBM.COM!RAH From: RAH@IBM.COM ("Russell A. Heise") Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix Subject: Re: TCP/IP Over SNA Message-ID: <081690.091707.heise1@ibm.com> Date: 16 Aug 90 14:20:27 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 43 eddjp@althea.UUCP (Dewey Paciaffi) writes: > In article <2812@awdprime.UUCP> linas@linas.austin.ibm.com writes: > - > -Let me try to answer this one... > -If you have a SNA network, there is no way in the world that > -you can hook up a Sun to it. If you did, every airline reservation > -system in New Jersey would probably burp. > > Don't tell this to my SUNs doing 3274 emulation... Here, here... > > -If you have Ethernet, well, just hook the /6000 to it. It'll work. > -Use sockets. They'll work. IBM TCP/IP is NOT implemented on top > -of SNA. If you have to use SNA, call your IBM Mainframe service rep. > -The /6000 supports SNA, but you'll probably have to buy special > -hardware to hook up to your s/370 or 3090. > > This seems to conflict with what I've heard elsewhere. I've been told that > the RS/6000 doesn't support SNA, but that SNA does support TCP/IP, with > the proper Hardware/Software/Mainframe configuration. If this actually > is the case, then the RS/6000 TCP/IP should be just as easily transported > across the SNA as the TCP/IP from a SUN or a Xenix/386, for that matter. My turn. AIX V3 on the RISC System/6000 provides support for TCP/IP over Token-Ring networks, Ethernet networks, and Serial lines (RS-232D). This support comes in the base OS offering. In addition, you can purchase and install a separate product, AIX SNA Services/6000, which provides a programming level interface to an SNA network. It does not provide a user-interface or any form of emulation, but it does allow you to build your own interface on top. TCP/IP and SNA are apples and oranges, with some exceptions. The biggest exception arises from the fact that an SNA network can include a Token-Ring network. Therefore, (with the right software configured) an RS/6000 can "talk" TCP/IP over a Token-Ring, or "talk" SNA over a Token-Ring, or both. The two protocol suites can coexist on the same Token-Ring without influence or interference. When your SUNs are doing 327x emulation, their emulation software is talking to the controller using SNA protocols. This has nothing to do with TCP/IP. Russ Heise, AIX TEchnical Support, IBM