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From: fgreco@govt.shearson.COM (Frank Greco)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re:  Open Windows 2.0 released (Sun press release)
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Date: 15 Aug 90 14:50:31 GMT
Sender: daemon@athena.mit.edu (Mr Background)
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Mike Burbidge writes:

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>>>      I just ported contool, my Sun console watcher, to X.  I retained the
>>> basic appliactions code, but rebuilt the interface using GUIDE, Sun's OPEN LOOK
>>> interface builder.  Anyone doing any development for XView needs to look at 
>> GUIDE.  I was able to build a base window and six dialog boxes in a just a few
>>> hours.  Hit a button, and out comes 3,000 lines of source code.  Add your
>>> application routines, and away you go.  And at $295 per unlimited site license,
>>> how can you go wrong?
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>Sounds like you just tried to slap together a small example. I found that
>for any realistically complex application guide dictates its architecture.
>For the small savings up front, I found that using guide was not worth
>comprimising the overall architecture of my application.
>


	I've used devGUIDE (silly name...) for reasonably complex applications and
	like Chuck, had extremely good success.  Of course, like any code generation
	tool we all know about, you lose a little on flexibility...but that's true
	about most (if not all) mechanical code generators.  So, at that point you
	tweak the code if you don't like it.

	Of course, your descriptive "complex" is very subjective.  I have built
	what I think are reasonably complex apps within the past year with devGUIDE.
	Things like market surveillance systems, portfolio management systems,
	tbl front-ends, database system admin tools...  all with devGUIDE.

	Similar to other GUI builders, there are some nits to pick, but overall
	I've found devGUIDE to be an extremely useful tool.  And like Chuck M.
	said in his posting, at $295 for an *unlimited* site license...  it
	seems to be a obvious purchase.

	And, btw, from my teaching experience, its *much* easier teaching non-computer 
	users the Open Look GUI than Motif....by far...  
	Open Look is *very* smooth.


	Frank G.



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