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From: hammy@bagheera.ctt.bellcore.com (John G. Smith)
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Subject: Re: CALL FOR DISCUSSION: REC.PETS, REC.BIRDS division.
Message-ID: <26030@bellcore.bellcore.com>
Date: 13 Aug 90 21:46:39 GMT
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John G. Smith   	email : hammy@ctt.bellcore.com
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In article <383@sun13.scri.fsu.edu>, sandee@sun13.scri.fsu.edu (Daan
Sandee) writes:
|> In article <1010.26c5a329@desire.wright.edu>
sbishop@desire.wright.edu writes:
|> >In article <1990Aug10.193512.6545@granite.cr.bull.com>,
horvath@granite.cr.bull.com (John Horvath) writes:
|> >> 
|> >> in the latter, I find the former not just uninteresting, but offensive.
|> >
|> >I dont mean to start a flame, but what is so offensive about pet birds?  I
|> 
|> If you don't want to start a flame, then don't make remarks like that. Or,
|> don't respond to the other guy's remarks.
|> This demonstrates EXACTLY why this group should be split. I can tolerate the
|> drivel about budgies being off their feed, but I don't want all the
flame wars
|> between groups of opposing interest.

I'm going by my own memory here, which is not necessarily the most
reliable storage device around, but I don't recall a single flame war
being started by a pet owner complaining about the presence of articles
not about pet birds - they are all started by birders' (or whatever we
are calling ourselves these days) remarks.

Personally I intend to vote against any change from the status quo as
far as this group is concerned.  I don't keep pet birds, and am
undecided as to how I feel about keeping them in general, but I'm not
going to object to anyone else doing so, unless harm is caused either to
the bird being kept, or to its species.  I certainly have no problem
filtering the articles in this group, and see no reason to create new
groups.  The net is cluttered enough.

Besides, do you really think any solution would last for long?  Before
long the sci.ornithologists would be complaining about the presence of
amateur bird watchers, and demanding their own group.  Or vice versa.
 
|> 
|> Daan Sandee                                          
sandee@sun16.scri.fsu.edu
|> Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
|> Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL 32306-4052  (904) 644-7045

John.
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