Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!motcid!svoboda From: svoboda@motcid.UUCP (David Svoboda) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Detecting Radar Detectors Message-ID: <4355@ash31.UUCP> Date: 14 Aug 90 15:52:52 GMT References: <26c63bee-32e.10sci.electronics-1@vpnet.chi.il.us> Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Div., Arlington Heights, IL Lines: 29 From article <26c63bee-32e.10sci.electronics-1@vpnet.chi.il.us>, by cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gordon Hlavenka): > > If the output power of the gate stealer is sufficient, the actual return > will be completely masked. By calibrating to your vehicle's speed, it is > possible to set the unit to produce any desired reading on the radar gun. I'm probably WAY out of my league here, as I've never worked with doppler radar before, but... As I understand, doppler radar sends a frequency which is reflected from the target which is moving towards or away from the gun. The gun receives the doppler shifted reflection amplifies it, and mixes it with the original transmitted frequency to obtain a beat frequency which is proportional to the relative speed of the target. Now, it seems possible that if you fed the receiver the appropriate BEAT frequency at a high enough level, then the amplification and mixing process would produce predominantly the beat frequency that you fed it, thereby giving a false reading, with no need of vehicle speed calibration. I seem to remember a construction article in Radio Electronics several years ago on a "Personal Auto-triggering Radar Calibrator", which did just this, and even sensed the current being drawn through your radar detector to automatically trigger. Of course, who would want to have to actually turn it on MANUALLY to calibrate their home radar units? :-) :-) Dave Svoboda, Motorola CID, RTSG, Arlington Heights, IL uucp => {uunet|mcdchg|gatech|att}!motcid!svoboda internet => motcid!svoboda@chg.mcd.mot.com A little boggling is good for the mind.