Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!cbnews!military From: boulder!snoopy!scottmi@ncar.UCAR.EDU (SCOTT MICHAEL C) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Iraq and nerve gases Summary: Atropine and 2-Pam Chloride Message-ID: <1990Aug12.214453.2592@cbnews.att.com> Date: 12 Aug 90 21:44:53 GMT References: <1990Aug8.030433.25759@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: University of Colorado, boulder Lines: 56 Approved: military@att.att.com From: boulder!snoopy!scottmi@ncar.UCAR.EDU (SCOTT MICHAEL C) Iraq currently uses (so far as I have been able to tell) the first generation of nerve gases (the ones invented by the Germans as an offshoot of their pesticide industry in the 1930's.) These are: Sarin, Tabun, and Soman. All are organophosphate cholinesteraise inhibitors, which means that they kill by causing the nerves to tighten up every muscle in the human body as far as they can. Since the heart is a muscle, this means that it will stop beating. Atropine is used as a first step (for those of you who don't allready know) antitdote. It is a very effective muscle relaxant; after taking it, you feel like you're not there. It doesn't reverse the effects of the nerve gas, though,any more than Contac actually CURES colds -- they both just alleviate the symptoms. 2-Pam Chloride is injected after the atropine. It protects the nerve endings and reverses the effects of mild nerve gas poisoning. Apparently, multiple injections of atropine CAN be made, but since the stuff is quite lethal in strong enough doses, it's not exactly safe. There was a soldier at the Rocky Mountain arsenal in Denver, where lots of nerve gas is stored, who had a bit of an accident a number of years ago. He was apparently inspecting the nerve agent drums (which I understand to be very much like ordinary 55-gallon drums, except that they have a corrosive- resistant inner lining) when he brushed against one of the drums. Apparently, when this pallet of drums had been moved into the storage bunker on a forklift, the drum in question had been scraped against the cement wall and creased. The crease in the metal drum had rusted, and a small hole had formed in the drum. This soldier noticed a drop of some liquid on his arm after brushing against the drum - some of the nerve agent (whatever it was.) It began to take effect, so he used his injector set, which was not enough. He crawled to some kind of storage building, where he used several more sets of injectors. He lived, even though he had used (I'm not sure of the number, but I remember it being something more than five) several sets of injectors; both atropine and 2-Pam chloride. Mustard gas (which the Iraquis also have in quantity), has no antidote. It is bis (2-chlorethyl) sulfide: Cl-CH2-CH2-S-CH2-CH2-Cl It causes horrible blisters by alkylating proteins. Charring of lung tissue is the usual result of inhaling the stuff. Skin blisters also appear, which makes wearing the full NBC suit, rather than just the mask advisable. Fortunately, US NBC suits are more comfortable than Soviet models - ours are actually wearable (to a minimal extent) in the hot environment of Saudi Arabia. --don't like snow, miss Deirdre, and wish I was still in Santa Cruz.