Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!yale!mintaka!ogicse!milton!cdshaw@cs.ualberta.ca From: cdshaw@cs.ualberta.ca (Chris Shaw) Newsgroups: sci.virtual-worlds Subject: Re: "Space" Message-ID: <1990Aug16.020033.12653@cs.UAlberta.CA> Date: 16 Aug 90 02:00:33 GMT References: <9007250107.AA01311@hitl.vrnet.washington.edu> <19539@well.sf.ca.us> Sender: hlab@milton.u.washington.edu Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 36 Approved: hitl@hardy.u.washington.edu In article <19539@well.sf.ca.us> (Owen Rowley) writes: >> > TIME is just another space, one that we have forgotten how to travel >> > freely in. >> 1. I cannot but interpret this to mean that humans have had the ability to >> journey through time. This to me is not a justifiable scientific statement. > >I have personally performed experiments >which took place *outside* the light cone, and the results were definitly >"time travel" in the literal sense. Now it's all fine and good for me to say >this, and it's a foregone conclusion that folks like this guy who cannot >justify science that he doesn't understand, will think I'm full of shit. >My experiments and results are subjective in nature and only valuable to me. This is all very nice and sanitary, but the only thing it proves is that you can convince yourself that you can travel in time. To convince other people, you must submit to skeptical inquiry. That's what science is all about. If you can only prove it to you, who cares? >However I have benefited by the knowledge gained in the experiment, what else >matters! What else matters is how much air one takes up spouting nonsense. The issue here isn't one of honesty to oneself, it's about honesty to one's fellow man. Until proven otherwise, I'm afraid that I don't buy this claim that you can travel in time in any way but forward one second at a time. I am also uninterested in a definition of "time travel" reduces to the viewing of archival materials. Remember that the burden of proof is not on the person hearing the claim, but on the person making the claim. >D. Owen Rowley {uunet,pyramid,sun}!autodesk!owen -- Chris Shaw University of Alberta cdshaw@cs.UAlberta.ca Now with new, minty Internet flavour! CatchPhrase: Bogus as HELL !