Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!haven!ncifcrf!lhc!usenet From: usenet@nlm.nih.gov (usenet news poster) Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets Subject: Re: Observations on the State of NN theory Message-ID: <1990Aug23.143902.758@nlm.nih.gov> Date: 23 Aug 90 14:39:02 GMT References: <3430010@hpwrce.HP.COM> Reply-To: states@tech.NLM.NIH.GOV (David States) Organization: National Library of Medicine, Bethesda, Md. Lines: 49 kingsley@hpwrce.HP.COM (Kingsley Morse "km>") writes: states@tech.NLM.NIH.GOV (David States "ds>") ds> I am not aware of any evidence for genetic type algorithms actually ds> playing a role in biological learning. km> My understanding is that twin studies have shown that intelligence is km> inherited. (Twin studies measure twins who were separated at birth, to km> distinguish between inherited and environmental effects.) I'm assuming that km> if intelligence is inherited, then it's encoded in chromosomes, and thus km> operated on by GAs. The issue of genetics and IQ is contentious to say the least. First, you should be aware that the "classic" twin studies by Cyril Burt are now known to have been totally fabricated and are a classic example of scientific fraud. Leaving the specifics of IQ and twins aside, genetics determines the underlying structure of an organism (you are not a kangaroo because your development was not governed by a kangaroo's genes). Intelligence, to me, refers to adaptability and learning ability. The fact that you sneeze when your nose is tickled may be genetically determined, but it is not particularly evidence of learning. In the sense that humans are generally regarded as being more intelligent than kangaroos, I suppose that genetics has a role in intelligence. ds> Specifically, somatic cells, such as neurons, do not undergo recombination. km> Can you be more specific? Do you mean that the components of individual km> cells don't undergo recombination? Do you mean that entire cells aren't km> recombined with other cells? What references are you using? Biological neural systems are composed of "somatic" cells like the most of the rest of the body. This means that these cells have lost the ability to undergo sexual recombination with exchange of genetic information (meiosis) and instead can only undergo asexual division (mitosis). In the adult brain, neurons have generally lost the ability to divide completely. Therefore, during the training of a biological neural system, individual neurons have no way of recombining genetic information. See: Watson et al, Molecular Biology of the Gene Darnel, Molecular Cell Biology km> And by the by, what was that "x" in your computational complexity table km> under the "Really Smart Systems" notestring? Just an arbitrary empirically determined number so C = x^N implies that C grows exponentially with N without saying exactly how fast. David States