Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!noao!asuvax!mcdphx!hrc!gtx!al From: al@gtx.com (Alan Filipski) Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets Subject: Re: Observations on the State of NN theory Message-ID: <1327@gtx.com> Date: 24 Aug 90 20:01:22 GMT References: <3430008@hpwrce.HP.COM> Reply-To: al@gtx.UUCP (Alan Filipski) Organization: GTX Corporation, Phoenix Lines: 36 In article <3430008@hpwrce.HP.COM> kingsley@hpwrce.HP.COM (Kingsley Morse) writes: >I agree with Nicol. I encoded a neural net in a GA and fine tuned it >with gradient descent, but as the net evolved to be larger and larger, it >wouldn't learn more and more. The aggregate of brain material became >computationally "stiff", in that the elements were too tightly >coupled. > >We know that GAs can evolve true intelligence, because we've evolved to >our present human intellect. But just knowing that GAs CAN work isn't >enough. The question now is: > > What genetic encoding will allow a large network to stay flexible and >be trained with many patterns? Complex biological (not just nervous) systems use strategies of hierarchical and sequential decomposition. Our brains, for example, are not randomly connected nets but have thousands of recognizable discrete structures, from tiny nuclei to huge cortical sheets. Many of these are repeated and some are found within others. Hierarchy and repetition seem to correspond to context-free and regular languages, respectively. I don't know much about GA's, but is seems to me that a grammatical encoding might be appropriate to get around that scale barrier. A "mutation" might involve not only tweaking some weights or connections, but repeating whole structures or putting them together in different ways. Just a half-baked idea. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ( Alan Filipski, GTX Corp, 8836 N. 23rd Avenue, Phoenix, Arizona 85021, USA ) ( {decvax,hplabs,uunet!amdahl,nsc}!sun!sunburn!gtx!al (602)870-1696 ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~