Xref: utzoo sci.lang:7054 comp.cog-eng:1746 sci.psychology:3175 sci.philosophy.tech:3158 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!ucsd!ucbvax!agate!shelby!eos!amelia!wilbur.nas.nasa.gov!eugene From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) Newsgroups: sci.lang,comp.cog-eng,sci.psychology,sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: Computer Languages and the Sapir/Whorf hypothesis Keywords: computer languages, Sapir/Whorf hypothesis, linguistics, snow, eskimos Message-ID: <7948@amelia.nas.nasa.gov> Date: 23 Aug 90 05:09:20 GMT References: <5137@munnari.oz.au> <1445@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> <1990Aug22.194652.7421@fs-1.iastate.edu> Sender: news@amelia.nas.nasa.gov Reply-To: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA Lines: 30 While I am in this group. Lakoff was mentioned. I also found an interesting, but a little dense reference in J. Fodor's The Language of Thought. This suggestions came from Steve Stevenson at Clemson who moderates comp.parallel (now there is difficult concept). Weinberg and all the other CS writers are okay, but they are not cognitive-types (nor am I, I am a behaviorist by orientation [Premack]). Another book I am just starting to read are some ideas by Piaget. More after I finish. I've decided I must get some of Whorf's writings because second hand net accounts lose everything. There are a couple of ACM SIGPLAN Notices papers which cited Whorf. They were okay. But, I relate and interesting story discussing this type of topic with Bill Burke, UCSC Physics Dept., July 4, 1990. Bill brought up Chinese, and how in the past there was no concept of the kidney as a separate organ, it was a combination of functions and that the concept of a kidney transplant was inconceivable because it had all this functionality tied together. I think the English language cripples our ability to write parallel programming languages. Even my use of the word biases you. I note that comp.lang.* isn't even on the list. P.S. Piaget has a few words to say about parallelism and simultaneity. Regarding snow: there's Firn, Neve, Sastugi, etc. Ask Ed LaChapelle (U. WA, Geology) how many words the Eskimo have. He will know. --e. nobuo miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene