Xref: utzoo sci.lang:7059 comp.cog-eng:1749 sci.psychology:3178 sci.philosophy.tech:3165 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!ukc!edcastle!aiai!jeff From: jeff@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Jeff Dalton) Newsgroups: sci.lang,comp.cog-eng,sci.psychology,sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: Computer Languages and the Sapir/Whorf hypothesis Keywords: computer languages, Sapir/Whorf hypothesis, linguistics, snow, eskimos Message-ID: <3279@skye.ed.ac.uk> Date: 23 Aug 90 17:10:37 GMT References: <5137@munnari.oz.au> <1445@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> <1990Aug22.194652.7421@fs-1.iastate.edu> Reply-To: jeff@aiai.UUCP (Jeff Dalton) Organization: AIAI, University of Edinburgh, Scotland Lines: 71 In article <1990Aug22.194652.7421@fs-1.iastate.edu> spam@iastate.edu (Begley Michael L) writes: > >This is one of those _completely_ false myths. The eskimo language has >only two words for snow---one that means 'snow that is falling' and 'snow >that has fallen'. This myth was created by a linguist who published a >paper that stated (in an attempt to demonstrate the same concept you stated) >that the eskimo language has ~25 different words for snow _without_ >researching__the_eskimo_languages_at_all_! There was a big fight about such issues on Eunet.politics a while ago, with many people claiming such things as "language is culture". (Some people clearly regrad something along the lines of the Sapir/ Whorf hypothesis as making a very important point about culture and why one should learn other languages.) The Eskimo words for snow came up, of course, and eventually (after most of it had died down), the following was posted: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >From: cedelle@yin.irisa.fr (Alain Cedelle) Newsgroups: eunet.politics Subject: 31 Eskimo words about snow. Message-ID: <1990May30.124940.22664@irisa.fr> Date: 30 May 90 12:36:20 GMT Sender: news@irisa.fr Distribution: eunet Organization: IRISA, Rennes/Roazhon Lines: 41 Here is an answer to the old question about the number of words describing snow in Eskimo languages: These are 31 words about snow, from the Inuit, Aivilik and Igloolik languages. from J. MacDonald from igloolik research center. (this list is probably not exhaustive) Aluiqqaniq : Snowdrift on a steep hill, overhanging on top. Aniuk : Snow for drinking water. Aniuvak : Snow remaining in holes. Aput : Snow on the ground (close to the generic Snow) Aqilluqqaaq : Fresh and soggy snow Auviq : snow brick, to build igloo Ijaruvak : Melted snow, turned in ice cristals. Isiriartaq : Falling snow, yellow or red. Kanangniut : Snowdrift made by North-East wind. Katakartanaq : Crusty snow, broken by steps. Kavisilaq : snow hardened by rain or frost Kinirtaq : wet and compact snow. Masak : wet snow, saturated. Matsaaq : snow in water Maujaq : deep and soft snow, where it's dificult to walk. Mingullaut : thin powder snow, enters by cracks and covers objects. Mituk : small snow layer on the water of a fishing hole. Munnguqtuq : compressed snow which began to soften in spring. Natiruviaqtuq: snow blasts on the ground. Niggiut : snowdrift with South-east wind Niummak : hard waving snow staying on ice fields Pingangnuit : snowdrift made by south-west wind Piqsiq : snow lift by wind. Blizzard. Pukak : dry snow cristals, like sugar powder Qannialaaq : light falling snow Qanniq : falling snow Quiasuqaq : re-frozen snow surface, making crust. Qiqiqralijarnatuq: crissing snow when walked on. Uangniut : snowdrift made by north-west wind. Uluarnaq : round snowdrift Uqaluraq : taper snowdrift A.C.