Xref: utzoo sci.lang:7060 comp.cog-eng:1750 sci.psychology:3179 sci.philosophy.tech:3166 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!sdcc6!bend!robboy From: robboy@bend.ucsd.edu (William Robboy) Newsgroups: sci.lang,comp.cog-eng,sci.psychology,sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: Computer Languages and the Sapir/Whorf hypothesis Keywords: computer languages, Sapir/Whorf hypothesis, linguistics, snow, eskimos Message-ID: <12387@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> Date: 23 Aug 90 21:03:32 GMT References: <1445@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> <1990Aug22.194652.7421@fs-1.iastate.edu> <3279@skye.ed.ac.uk> Sender: news@sdcc6.ucsd.edu Followup-To: sci.lang Organization: University of California, San Diego Lines: 39 Nntp-Posting-Host: bend.ucsd.edu In article <3279@skye.ed.ac.uk> jeff@aiai.UUCP (Jeff Dalton) writes: >[Repost of Alain Cedelle's posting from last May] >>From: cedelle@yin.irisa.fr (Alain Cedelle) >>Newsgroups: eunet.politics >>Subject: 31 Eskimo words about snow. >>Message-ID: <1990May30.124940.22664@irisa.fr> >> Here is an answer to the old question about the number of words describing >> snow in Eskimo languages: >> >> These are 31 words about snow, from the Inuit, Aivilik and Igloolik languages. >> from J. MacDonald from igloolik research center. >> (this list is probably not exhaustive) Indeed. Probably they are not exhaustively listable. >>[list follows] I don't know any Eskimo languages, but I've seen enough work on them to bet my bottom dollar that few if any of the words in this list are unanalyzable wholes, and that they are probably concatenations of multiple morphemes. Eskimo languages are polysynthetic. Words can be formed by recursively concatenating pieces of word to produce things that would be whole complex phrases or sentences in languages more like English. There is potentially an infinite number of words about anything. The fact that there are so many words about snow reflects Eskimo word-formation in general rather than Eskimo cognition about snow. If a very large number of such words were recorded from spontaneous utterances (rather than intentionally elicited in linguistic fieldwork), it indicates merely that the topic of snow comes up a lot. Which I imagine it does up there no matter what language you're speaking. Geoff Pullum wrote an entertainingly scathing article on this topic. Here is the citation from Current Contents: 1. PULLUM GK. THE GREAT ESKIMO VOCABULARY HOAX. NATURAL LANGUAGE & LINGUISTIC THEORY, 1989 MAY, V7 N2:275-281. Bill Robboy robboy@bend.ucsd.edu