Xref: utzoo sci.philosophy.tech:3170 sci.psychology:3183 comp.cog-eng:1754 sci.lang:7066 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!mit-eddie!bbn.com!jcurtis From: jcurtis@bbn.com (Jack Curtis) Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech,sci.psychology,comp.cog-eng,sci.lang Subject: Re: Computer Languages and the Sapir/Whorf hypothesis Keywords: eskimo, snow, language Message-ID: <59109@bbn.BBN.COM> Date: 23 Aug 90 22:25:03 GMT References: <5137@munnari.oz.au> <11606@pucc.Princeton.EDU> Sender: news@bbn.com Reply-To: jcurtis@BBN.COM (Jack Curtis) Followup-To: sci.philosophy.tech Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA Lines: 29 If I may insert a casual comment, it appears to me that the relative paucity of expressions for snow in English, as opposed to Innuit is a function, principally, of the limited experience of lexicographers. As a skier, who has skied varying types of snow surface - I have heard snow described as granular, frozen granular, crusty, rotten, sun-rotten, layered, frozen crumbular, champagne powder, Eastern powder, hard-crust, breakable crust, ball bearing, ice, blue ice, black ice, wet-suction, machine-wet, heavy powder, sugar, corn snow, confectioner's snow, undercut (by water), boiler-plate (ice w/nobules), etc. This list does not include statements about terrain/snow combinations, or any impromptu slang (which may spontaneously communicate the quality of the snow quite quickly.) Accuracy in describing snow adds to my pleasure. I'm sure that if my *survival* were as dependent upon making fine distinctions in snow cover and condition as it is for the Eskimo's, then I would *easily* have one hundred words (or phrases) for snow. Now, admittedly, this is quite different from computer languages, in that what one is able to reason about is limited to a purely synthetic terrain of constructs. However, I doubt that anyone trained in mathematics, for example, would find any great difficulty in overcoming the handicap of being tied to a chair and forced to write COBOL. (Which generally is regarded as as in a dead heat with flipping burgers in job satisfaction surveys.) Apologies to all who are gainfully employed flipping burgers.