Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!ub!boulder!daemon From: kre@munnari.oz.au (Robert Elz) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco Subject: Re: Serial interfaces IP number question Message-ID: <25011@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Date: 22 Aug 90 00:22:21 GMT Sender: daemon@boulder.Colorado.EDU Lines: 38 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 90 21:13:27 EDT From: "Roger Fajman" Message-ID: <9008210111.AA08964@alw.nih.gov> We did that, but it didn't work out very well in practice. The problem is that the subnet mask exists in so many places (routers and hosts) that people get very upset when you want to change it. Obviously with a scheme like this you don't want to have to change all the netmasks every time that you add a few more subnets - the sensible approach is to numbre subnets from the high order bits, hosts form the low order bits, and set the netmask at some appropriate place in between (based on expected usage of the number space). The mask would only ever need to be altered if the anticipated usage of the number space turned out to be incorrect. So we finally settled on a 7 bit subnet mask and got a second class B address to use when we run out of subnets. If you have > 254 hosts on any nets, then it looks (currently) as if you made a wise choice, which probably means that you made it with sufficient useful information. Sites starting out with their first 5 hosts or so, on 3 or 4 subnets are rarely able to predict that accurately. If your subnet space holds out until your routers implement variable width masks, then most of your subnets will need to have more than 254 hosts before you would need a second net number. Personally, I'm hoping that variable width subnet support will become mandatory in the forthcoming router requirements RFC. kre