Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!sci.ccny.cuny.edu!dan From: dan@sci.ccny.cuny.edu (Dan Schlitt) Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp Subject: Re: Who pays the bill? Message-ID: <1990Aug21.205623.9360@sci.ccny.cuny.edu> Date: 21 Aug 90 20:56:23 GMT References: <26A738A8.725B@tct.uucp> <26B70994.578B@intercon.com> <66101@sgi.sgi.com> <26BCD60E.1D9@intercon.com> Organization: City College of New York - Science Computing Facility Lines: 37 In article <26BCD60E.1D9@intercon.com> amanda@mermaid.intercon.com (Amanda Walker) writes: >In article <66101@sgi.sgi.com>, vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver) >writes: >> Again, please refrain from even thinking of suggesting that people >> using machines within the sgi.com domain be forced to type FQDN's on >> internal mail. >I agree that they shouldn't have to, but I don't think it unreasonable if >their machines append their domain to any unqualified hostnames before the >messages leave their machine... YES, YES, YES!!!! Please do that!!! My mailbox is filled with bounced uucp mail from sites that don't do that. The mail is bounced by the AT&T host named physics (old and in the maps for ages). It seems that there are lots of machines out there named physics or even rainbow.physics or wrath.physics or .... and their misconfigured software sends that mail off on its way via uucp to good old AT&Ts physics and it get bounced back to me. (The headers are certainly going to have only unreplyable things in them.) The only solution for this problem is for the sites to use RFQDNs internally. >Karl's machines (well, OSU CIS's machines :-)) do this, and it works quite >well unless someone gives their *unqualified* address to a colleague across >the country and their mail ends up in Finland... This, however, is pilot >error. As has been pointed out many times, the use of short names is a user agent problem. If you want to hide the domain stuff from the user then fix the user agent. The MTA should use the FQDN. PLEASE. > >"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you generate." -- Dan Schlitt Manager, Science Division Computer Facility dan@sci.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York dan@ccnysci.uucp New York, NY 10031 dan@ccnysci.bitnet (212)650-7885