Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!walt.cc.utexas.edu!petrilli From: petrilli@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Petrilli) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Musing on Constitutionality Summary: Just a ramble, but a point perhaps Message-ID: <36823@ut-emx.UUCP> Date: 27 Aug 90 02:18:18 GMT Sender: news@ut-emx.UUCP Reply-To: petrilli@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Petrilli) Organization: The University of Texas at Austin Lines: 64 (Excuse me if I ramble, but I must say this...) I think we have all missed the true mission of the EFF, which is quite simple, to protect the Constitution, and nothing less noble, and nothing pompous. We have all been spoiled by UseNet and its realatively free exchange of ideas, but what would you all say if the governement decided that this was some clandestine project to undermine national security? You may scoff, but such a topic has come up, and such actions were considered several years back (1987 to be exact). The Constitution was designed to protect speech that we (the people, and the government) find "unsuitable." Speech that no one dislikes doesn't need protection. I find it amusing that the SS sees "electronic publishing" as inferior to conventional paper printing. If such things as "Phrack" had been published on paper, and distributed as such, the SS wouldn't have dared to attack; fear of the reaction of the "press" (newspapers/television) would have stoped them, even if they ignored it's unconsitutionality. It is simply the fact that "electronic publishing" such as Phrack, and even UseNet, never truly exist on paper, that the SS though they could supress the free flow of information. I find the very idea that Prack was considered "dangerous" a misplacement of monies and effort on the part of the government. What was to be gained by the prosecution of Craig? Make an example of him so that no one would ever publish an underground journal again? I consider myself a hacker (please, think of the original term), and I do not consider myself a threat to society, nor a "loose axe" that may at any moment destroy the entire infrastructure that society is based on. I am a person deeply entrenched in computers (maybe too much), and dedicated to showing what computers can do. I am not some destructive individual whos entire goal in life is to destroy as much information as possible... I am not what the government calls a hacker (I have my own term for those kind of people, but dignity prevents me from using it). I am good friends however with two of the people who's homes were searched in Operation SunDevil (specifically: The Mentor, and Erik Bloodaxe are their "pseudonims"), and I for one can testify that they are far from a threat to society, in-fact, as one stated in comp.dcom.telecom a while back, "hackers have closed more holes, and saved more systems that they have ever damaged." Most hackers leave the system in better shape than they found it, often times closing security holes that the system administrator had no knowledge of (obviously). I will say that there are a few "hackers" who are destructive (and receive all the press), but there are alot that have ethics and subscribe to the "hacker ideals," one of which is that information should be free... he who controls information controls the power is their view, therefor, no-one should control information, it's too precious a resource to be hoarded like little kids with their marbles. Well, that's all I have time to type (I pehave vi!), but I think that the consitutionality is being ignored by Gene Spafford... I don't care how much you are affraid of them, you can't afford to make exceptions to rights. + Chris Petrilli "Opinons represented here | University of Texas at Austin do not necessarily | INTERNET: petrilli@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu represent those of a sane | SNAILMAIL: 429 Brady Lane, Austin, Texas, 78746 person. Take them as + PHONE: +1 512 327 0986 simply that."