Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!nuug!ifi!enag From: enag@ifi.uio.no (Erik Naggum) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso Subject: Re: Help on ASN.1 Message-ID: Date: 21 Aug 90 18:07:30 GMT References: <5594@ethz.UUCP> <59051@bbn.BBN.COM> Sender: enag@ifi.uio.no (Erik Naggum) Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 54 Nntp-Posting-Host: svarte.ifi.uio.no In-Reply-To: craig@bbn.com's message of 21 Aug 90 12:31:48 GMT Originator: enag@svarte.ifi.uio.no In article <59051@bbn.BBN.COM> craig@bbn.com (Craig Partridge) writes: First, read the ISO versions of the CCITT standards -- much, much more readable. They're ISO 8824 and 8825. Hrmph! CCITT standards come in varying colors, a new one every fourth year. The Red Book (1984) was a literary disaster, a blot on the history of prose, etc, and I mean the _entire_ Red Book. "What we have here is a failure to communicate" style. I was somewhat hesitant to buy more of these standards, but bought X.400 (1988) for the fun of it. Then guess what? The Blue Book (1988) is very light, casual reading, compared to the Red Book. You still have to cope with 400+ definitions of terms in some of the more technical standards, but it is written by humans, for humans, not by cyborgs for other cyborgs with their personalities coded in CHILL. I have since bought two feet of Blue Books, and enjoy reading about things I've wondered about since I was a kid. If the CCITT folks had any marketing skills, they would place flourescent stickers on the Blue Book: NEW AND IMPROVED! Instead, they go like this: The CCITT, considering (1) that the previous version of its Recommendations were not easily readable, (2) that much study has gone into formulating the ideas contained therein in better ways, (3) that several ideas needed to be expounded upon in greater detail, (4) that Administrations will need to distribute more copies of CCITT Recommendations to the public, due to increased interest in CCITT matters, unanimously declares the view - that the present version is new and improved. And, lest people be confused, ISO 8824 + amendment 1 is identical to CCITT Blue Book X.208, and ISO 8825 + amendment 1 is identical to CCITT Blue Book X.209. The CCITT versions come in a nice soft-cover book, and you can buy four copies of this book for the price of the ISO standards, including amendments. The book contains half of the X.200 series, including service definitions. Very useful. -- [Erik Naggum] Gaustadalleen 21 +47-256-7822 N-0371 OSLO; NORWAY +47-260-4427 (fax)