Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!ucsd!ucbvax!lcs.mit.edu!MAP From: MAP@lcs.mit.edu (Michael A. Patton) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Hosts whose IP numbers end in 0........ Message-ID: <9008272010.AA27718@gaak.LCS.MIT.EDU> Date: 27 Aug 90 20:10:08 GMT References: <63256@bu.edu.bu.edu> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 41 Date: 27 Aug 90 16:32:47 GMT From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!bu.edu!bu-it!kwe@ucsd.edu (Kent England) Hi Kent, that's quite a return address you have there and you're only next door :-). I didn't see anybody cite chapter and verse of the Host Requirements RFC and considering the hours spent on that fine document, I think it would be a shame not to cite the official bible of the Internet (ok, one of the bibles...): A laudable ambition, but the original poster said he had consulted the RFCs and not found anything outlawing what he's doing, I don't think you did either :-). [Quotes from RFCs removed] I therefore conclude that a host part of zero is never a legal source address. So I think the petitioner should change the addresses on his hosts and not bother his router vendor. Except that you missed the point of the original poster. He is not subnetting and therefore has sixteen bits of host number. Some of his hosts are assigned (non-zero) sixteen bit numbers that happen to have all the last eight bits zero. According to all the specs this is legal. His problem comes in that some gateways (I assume not under his control) are configured to discard all packets with addresses having the low eight bits of the address zero. My reading of this would be that what he is doing is legal, and the maintainers of the intervening routers are doing something wrong. But to follow the "Be conservative in what you send, liberal in what you accept" policy would suggest not using such host addresses even though they should be valid. That's what we do here. __ /| /| /| \ Michael A. Patton, Network Manager / | / | /_|__/ Laboratory for Computer Science / |/ |/ |atton Massachusetts Institute of Technology Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are a figment of the phosphor on your screen and do not represent the views of MIT, LCS, or MAP. :-)