Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU!PIRARD%vm1.ulg.ac.be From: PIRARD%vm1.ulg.ac.be@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Andr'e PIRARD) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc Subject: Re: Telnet software with scripts? Message-ID: <9008230554.aa01364@louie.udel.edu> Date: 23 Aug 90 09:20:57 GMT References: Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 27 On Tue, 10 Jul 90 00:47:46 EDT Ed Sterling said: >Script or "macro" capabilities seem to be very common in >"dial-up" telecommunications software programs, and as you say, >it hasn't made it to TELNET yet. Many useful scripts can also be 'played' with keyboards enhancers. They can also be useful for keyboard redefinition. Additionally, they may allow WYSIWYG recording *during* the session. I use DESQview's 'keyboard learn' (as well as cut&paste) a lot that way. So easy that one rarely types the same key sequence more than twice. Limitations are that: 1) There is no provision for logic. 2) No synch with output is provided (for systems that need that), only fixed time delays. But there could be a TSR to watch the screen and wait until anything specific is displayed (and logic limited to abort). Anybody knows one? 3) Comm programs like to merge keyboard shift status with keyboard input to extend the number of keys available. Enhancers cannot replay status and the program gets the status of the key redefined. I've had problems with keyboard redefinition of MSKermit (without SET KEY OFF) and CUTCP. There is a solution, however. Comm programs should require that the status of redefined keys be present, but allow extraneous status. I warn implementers about that. Andr'e PIRARD SEGI, Univ. de Li`ege B26 - Sart Tilman B-4000 Li`ege 1 (Belgium) pirard@vm1.ulg.ac.be or PIRARD@BLIULG11 on EARN/BITNET