Xref: utzoo alt.security:1433 alt.folklore.computers:4892 comp.society.futures:2047 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!decwrl!ucbvax!ucdavis!csusac!sactoh0!vector0!jon From: jon@vector0 (A Product of Society) Newsgroups: alt.security,alt.folklore.computers,comp.society.futures Subject: Re: Re: Feedback on Computer Crime - Apology Message-ID: Date: 26 Aug 90 21:13:56 GMT References: <1990Aug25.095033.29589@funet.fi> Organization: Vector Zero Productions Lines: 99 eal@kaarne.tut.fi (Lehtim{ki Erkki) writes: > > One day, when I was going to connect to node xxx.yyy.a.b, I > mistakenly connected to yyy.xxx.a.b > > Well, I get message Sun-Os ....... and the login-prompt, which I was expectin > But before I typed my user name, I noticed that the organization was wrong, > so I typed ^D instead. > > Now, have I committed a crime or not? Yes, if in California and the connection was not interstate. :California Penal Code S [Section] 502: :::Computer data access fraud; legislative findings; definitions... ...any person who commits any of the following acts is guilty of a public offense: (1) Knowingly accesses and without permission alters, damages, deteles, [...etc...] data...in order to either (A) devise...a scheme, or (B) wrongfully control or obtain money... (2) Knowingly accesses and without permission takes, copies, or makes use of any data from a computer, computer system, [etc].... (3) Knowingly and without permission uses or causes to be used computer services. [ You did this one: You used computer services without permission. But as per a court ruling somewhere, a "Welcome to.." message was judged to be adiquate permission. ] (4) Knowingly accesses and without permission...alters...data... (5) Knowingly and without permission disrupts or causes the disruption of computer services or denies or causes the denial of computer services to an authorized user of a computer, computer system, or computer network. [ You did this one too. Technically, there's more than one node per system; but a legitimate user might have gotten a busy code while you were connected. --Two felonies, not bad for a wrong number, eh? ] (6) Knowingly and without permission provides or assits in providing a means of accessing a computer.... (7) Knowingly and without permission accesses or causes to be accessed any computer....or computer network. [ This one too. Note that this, #7, is almost the same as #3. These laws repeat themselves a lot. But now we're up to THREE felony counts! :Any person who violates... (1), (2), (4), or (5)...is punishable by a :fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars, or by imprisonment in the :state prison for 16 months, or two or three years, or by BOTH fine and :imprisonment... :Any person who violates paragraph (3)..is punishable as follows: (A) ...Fine..not exceeding $5,000...[ or jail for one year, or both] (B) [For anything which causes $5,000 injury to victim] by a fine not exceeding $10,000..or by imprisonment..16 months, or two or three years, or by BOTH that fine and imprisionment... :Any person who violates paragraph (6) or (7).. is punishable as :follows: (A) For a first violation which does not result in any injury, an infraction punishable by a fine not exceeding $250. [ In reality, there is *always* a ball-park dollar amount injury thought up by someone ] (B) ..$5,000..or imprisonment..one year... (C) For any violation which [the victim has $5,000 damage], a fine ..$10,000..or by imprisonment..16 months..two or three years... -------- I'll stop here. See ya in jail, guy. Sorry... (Maybe someone should post this to TELECOM Digest and/or Computer Underground Digest too. Remember, I'm the guy who *was busted*, so I think I know what I'm talking about here...) > Erkki Lehtim{ki eal@kaarne.tut.fi "I don't eat nutrasweet or use a disclaimer ______Whoa!... Jon ..??$!...ames!pacbell!sactoh0!vector0!jon Internet: sactoh0!vector0!jon@pacbell.com "It's hard to believe that the entire fate of the world lies in the hands of the Phone Company." --- War of the Worlds