Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato!topaz!thomas From: thomas@topaz.jpl.nasa.gov (Peter Thomas) Newsgroups: comp.society.futures Subject: Re: RE Feedback on Computer Crime - Apology Message-ID: <4678@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> Date: 27 Aug 90 16:56:16 GMT References: <4c517e56.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> <9008210016.AA14566@world.std.com> <1990Aug22.033411.3601@looking.on.ca> Sender: news@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov Reply-To: thomas@topaz.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Peter Thomas) Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA Lines: 31 Brad Templeton writes: >a) Property is misappropriated >b) Real monetary value is involved >c) Enforcement is possible at a reasonable cost >then it is the duty of the police to protect that property. Brad, To some extent this is like asking "How many hostages do we let them take before we go to war?" There are two ethical positions possible. One is the pragmatic view, which you have chosen, and the other is the principled. I think perhaps we spend much to much time thinking of the amount of damage caused and whether it is "worth it" to pursue wrong-doing. I agree with making the punishment fit the crime--so perhaps a tiny crime should result in little more than a harsh word of warning. . .but it definitely should not be ignored as if it didn't happen. Looking the other way is one of the worst ways we can invalidate a principle. The instant we do, we are no longer defending principle, but are rather buttressing up a "grey" or "wishy-washy" set of individual cases. Is it any wonder our legal system is in such a mess? We have been doing this for so many years that it is now almost impossible to distinguish wrong from right--and just about possible to sue anyone over anything and at least have some legal precedent as a leg to stand on. If we are truly looking towards building a better _future_society_ perhaps we should put a greater emphasis on principled and reasoned action. --Pete