Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!apple!hercules!sparkyfs!ads.com!saturn!jgautier From: jgautier@deimos.ads.com (Jorge Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Subject: Re: CASE, the Little Red Hen, and Stone Soup Message-ID: Date: 23 Aug 90 18:05:27 GMT References: <28596@athertn.Atherton.COM> <28966@athertn.Atherton.COM> Sender: usenet@ads.com (USENET News) Distribution: comp Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mountain View, CA 94043, +1 (415) 960-7300 Lines: 35 In-Reply-To: cimshop!davidm@uunet.UU.NET's message of 22 Aug 90 20:58:15 GMT In article cimshop!davidm@uunet.UU.NET (David S. Masterson) writes: > The point is the requirements. Tools can be designed to work together by > working with a central standard (in this case, the data dictionary). The > problem is finding such a standard and getting vendors to accept it. Then > they will "integrate" in quite useful manners. I agree that tools can be designed to work together, and I believe that that design should drive the tool integration standard. However, I don't believe that the mere fact of the existence of that standard will magically create useful CASE environments. If the goal is to obtain the implementation of a useful CASE environment via tool integration, I believe the path should be design of useful design and impl. of design and impl. of CASE env. -drives-> cooperating tools -drives->integration standard | enables | V implementation of useful CASE env. I want to see the design of a useful CASE environment as the "raison d'etre" for a tool integration standard. I have not seen such a design (yet?), so I am not ready to buy tool integration just because it *could* lead to a useful CASE environment. I see the value that tool integration standards could have for a developing industry. But as a client, I am interested in the useful CASE environment, not in how it's implemented. As a computer scientist, I believe there may be other paths leading to it. -- Jorge A. Gautier| "The enemy is at the gate. And the enemy is the human mind jgautier@ads.com| itself--or lack of it--on this planet." -General Boy