Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!mcdchg!chinet!saj From: saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Atari Stock (now: what good is Atari?) Summary: Maybe there are some good points too Keywords: Atari computers market piracy Message-ID: <1990Aug25.135955.24781@chinet.chi.il.us> Date: 25 Aug 90 13:59:55 GMT References: <1990Aug23.181723.19210@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> <1990Aug24.061358.28487@chinet.chi.il.us> <1990Aug24.234729.7504@sisd.kodak.com> Organization: Chinet - Chicago Public Access UNIX Lines: 34 Jeff Gortatowsky (apologies if I spelled the name wrong) chose to re-open some serious issues in a follow-up to one of my postings. I may as well make some comments too. First: a PC-compatible running Windows (or presumably a lower-priced Mac, after the announcements Apple is expected to make shortly) gives the user everything worth having in the ST, for less money, and with better support. True or false? Still false, I think, but getting closer to true by the day. Let's say the standard ST today is an STe with a meg of memory; sale price about $750 (I'm kinda splitting the difference between color and mono). Stack it up against a 12 MHz 80286 with something that can handle graphics: That's at least $100 more. Performance on text-based applications is comparable. I'm told, though, that the 80286 won't run Windows usefully. Add another $70 for a Meg of RAM. Maybe $40 for a copy of Windows. Even now, the STe is faster on graphics. Add a hard disk: the clone takes an internal disk, the ST takes an external one. For basic performance, you pay about $200 less for the clone's disk. But the ST's disk is a bit more than twice as fast in typical operations. Correct- able, but that's another $100 into the clone. And if you like those removable platter hard drives, there's no contest: about $400 less to put one on the ST than on the clone. Every Atari follower knows how dangerous it is to compare real and imaginary machines. Last I heard, the low-cost Macs expected from Apple were going to be priced more than the above clone and have no more than a meg of RAM. Piracy: I'm sure it hurts plenty to be the victim. But if you think the ST is bad, I suggest you contact the author of Mean 18. Or of X-tree. The money being made is in a few blockbuster games, and in programs for the corp- orate market. A few people are making some money on utility programs (both PC and ST markets) but for each one of them, there's a story: why he makes money while the other guys with near-equivalent stuff don't. Programming is fun, and if you're good, it follows that you'll write good programs. Selling software is agonizing, and if you do everything right, sometimes it still doesn't work. This note is much too long already. Next person's comments---- Steve J.