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From: rickr@virtech.uucp (Rick Rodman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: Unix for PDP-11/23s
Summary: Available for $65K?  A joke
Message-ID: <1990Aug23.025514.15993@virtech.uucp>
Date: 23 Aug 90 02:55:14 GMT
References: <14695@shlump.nac.dec.com>
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Organization: Virtual Technologies Inc.
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In article <14695@shlump.nac.dec.com>, kaiser@cheese.enet.dec.com writes:
> 
> In article <1990Aug19.034635.26429@virtech.uucp>, rickr@virtech.uucp (Rick
> Rodman) writes...
> 
> >1. Of the four operating systems once offered for the PDP-11, RSX, RT-11,
> >RSTS, and Ultrix, Digital has discontinued only one: Ultrix (Unix).
> >So much for Digital's commitment to Unix.
> 
> OOooohhhh, Big Bad Digital!  Give me a break.

Your sarcasm is stupid.  I point out that DEC's recent claims of commitment
to Unix are hypocritical.  I like DEC's hardware, but in the last few years
they have turned from the company that built machines that were better to the
company that does anything to lock people into their product.  Now if you
can't discuss things like that rationally, go suck an egg.

> Digital GAVE (as in "free") the source code of the last version of Ultrix-11 to

Big deal - that doesn't help consumers any. 

> Berkeley expecting it to stay alive that way, rather than freezing it and
> offering it as an archival product with no development and bug fixes -- the
> nearly nonexistent customer demand just doesn't warrant it.  It's now available

"Nearly nonexistent customer demand"?  Do you see people on Usenet asking for
RSTS or RT-11?  But I suppose people on Usenet don't count.

> from Usenix, by arrangement with Berkeley I'd guess.

Meaning that it's only available to rich folks or academia.

I'm pleased (maybe) to see so many people rushing to confirm EVERYTHING I said
in my posting.  In summary:  Unless you have sixty-five or more thousand
dollars lying around or work for a company or a university that does or
already has a source license, UNIX IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE PDP-11.


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Rick Rodman      uunet!virtech!rickr