Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU!GTHEALL From: GTHEALL@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU (George A. Theall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro Subject: Rainbow EchoMail Digest Message-ID: <9008231244.AA15459@remote.dccs.upenn.edu> Date: 23 Aug 90 13:45:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 212 Rainbow EchoMail Digest Aug 23, 1990 In this issue: RE: EXTENDED MEMORY ON A (2 messages) RE: DESKJET AND WORDPERFE RE: BBS RUNNING ON A RAIN RE: WP FOR DEC RAINBOW RE: CACHE PROGRAM RE: WINDOWS 3.0 RE: MORE INFO ON MY NEW ' (2 messages) Articles posted to either INFO-DEC-MICRO or comp.sys.dec.micro are currently gatewayed to the Rainbow Echo on FidoNet. You do not need to take special action to respond to articles in these digests. Please send reports of problems or suggestions for improvement of this digest to GTHEALL@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU (Internet). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 08-20-90 (06:50) To: GEORGE THEALL Subject: RE: EXTENDED MEMORY ON A From: DAVID MAROUN I refer you to page 206 of the CP/M-86-80 version 2.0 User's Guide and to page 156 of the MS-DOS version 2.05 User's Guide. Both say, "a megabyte is equal to a million characters." This terminology agrees with the Winchester utility program supplied with DEC's 10-megabyte hard disk, and with the description of that disk as '10 megabytes'. According to you, that way of speaking should have resulted in a lawsuit. Has Digital Equipment Corporation been sued over its documentation for the Rainbow? Not as far as I know. I point out also that 'megahertz' (MHz) is ALWAYS interpreted as a million cycles per second. - --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 ------------------------------ Date: 08-20-90 (09:08) To: GEORGE THEALL Subject: RE: DESKJET AND WORDPERFE From: ANDREW TAYLOR Assuming we are talking about Wordperfect 4.2 on the Rainbow: It's very non-intuitive BUT, if you want to install a Wordperfect printer definition to print from the Printer port on the Rainbow, then (when going through the Select Printer Menu accessed from the "PRINT" key) the correct selection for where to print is "LPT 1", the default selection. I presume (though haven't tried it) that if you had a printer connected to the COM port then you would select COM 1 as your destination. The other tricky thing about installing printers is that, to see additional printer definitions on a floppy disk, you have to press SHIFT-NEXT SCREEN. WP then prompts you to insert the floppy with the definitions. Andrew Taylor - --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 ------------------------------ Date: 08-21-90 (21:35) To: MARK FISCHER Subject: RE: BBS RUNNING ON A RAIN From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS ** Quoting Mark Fischer to Jean-Claude Demars ** >Well by the time you read this it is past your deadline but >anyway here goes: ** End of Quote ** Well, I set it up on one of the office PC's, but as this means i no longer have a PC on my desk, I still would like to get it work on the Rainbow. Tell ya what i have... Rainbow computer with 2 floppys, 10 meg HD, and of course, KYBD and monitor. My problems... I can get OPUS (although i have never used it) on IBM diskette, and i do have Rainbow MS-DOS 2.11 for the system, but that's it. Tell me what i need to get all this working (i have the modem, but no communications osftware for the rainbow). Any ideas?? I no longer have the short deadline that i did. - --- TAGMAIL v2.20 * Origin: Den Net (1:130/35) ------------------------------ Date: 08-22-90 (02:40) To: DONALD PHILLIPSON Subject: RE: WP FOR DEC RAINBOW From: PAUL ROBINSON A "markup" language is one where you put codes in a document and the program then uses the codes to generate the finished output. RUNOFF is a good example of a "markup." - --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md - 301-622-2247 ------------------------------ Date: 08-22-90 (02:42) To: CARL HOUSEMAN Subject: RE: CACHE PROGRAM From: PAUL ROBINSON Any contract - such as a software license - ends if either of the parties 'dies.' Dissolution of a corporation in a bankruptcy constitutes the 'death' of that organization. Therefore a contract with a defunct entity is no longer enforceable. - --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md - 301-622-2247 ------------------------------ Date: 08-22-90 (03:54) To: FRANK MALLORY Subject: RE: WINDOWS 3.0 From: BILL MAYHEW > Is it anticipated that v3.0 will be usable on a non-Turbow Rainbow? Depends on your definition of "usable", Frank. If you're into lots of long coffee breaks, yes. If you want to accomplish something productive, probably not. (Above is based on hearsay, but is eminently believable.) - --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Still Servicing the Rainbow - Maybee Forever (1:101/1.0) ------------------------------ Date: 08-22-90 (08:21) To: FRANK MALLORY Subject: RE: MORE INFO ON MY NEW ' From: CHRISTOPHER WROTEN You misunderstood my question. I'm trying to make sure my two graphic boards work, not the potentially swapped memory board. I need some way to *know* that the graphic boards work as they are supposed to, before I consider swapping one of them for the memory adaptor board. - --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Still Servicing the Rainbow - Maybee Forever (1:101/1.0) ------------------------------ Date: 08-23-90 (08:15) To: DAVID MAROUN Subject: RE: EXTENDED MEMORY ON A From: GEORGE THEALL DM>I refer you to page 206 of the CP/M-86-80 version 2.0 User's Guide and DM>to page 156 of the MS-DOS version 2.05 User's Guide. Both say, "a DM>megabyte is equal to a million characters." Your references are a bit outdated, me thinks. DM>This terminology agrees DM>with the Winchester utility program supplied with DEC's 10-megabyte DM>hard disk, and with the description of that disk as '10 megabytes'. Tell you what, David. Run CHKDSK on that 10-megabyte hard disk. Does it report 10,000,000 or 10,485,760 bytes of total disk space? [If you don't have a 10MB drive, than any hard disk will do.] I'm anxious to hear the results. Or what about that RAMBOW board from Suitable Solutions you asked about earlier? You said it has "a full megabyte of memory". Care to calculate for us how many bytes it has? Or just tell us how many chips it contains and what the capacity of each is (ie, are they 256Kbit chips?). DM>According to you, that way of speaking should have resulted in a DM>lawsuit. Has Digital Equipment Corporation been sued over its DM>documentation for the Rainbow? Not as far as I know. Before we talk about actual lawsuits, let's first figure out whether DEC was oversimplifying when it wrote the manuals you quote above, or whether it indeed was marketing its products using that interpretation of "mega". Ok? BTW: I'm not suggesting DEC be sued for its documentation but rather for (possibly) misleading advertising. George ------------------------------ Date: 08-23-90 (08:35) To: CHRISTOPHER WROTEN Subject: RE: MORE INFO ON MY NEW ' From: GEORGE THEALL CW> I need some way to *know* that the graphic CW> boards work as they are supposed to, before I consider CW> swapping one of them for the memory adaptor board. Did you try SCRAM? Besides giving your graphics board a workout, it is a fairly interesting game. You might also look into Jim O'Brien's popular JOBSDUMP, which dumps graphics screen images to a file. Check out your local board or grab it from the INFO-DEC-MICRO file archives. George ------------------------------