Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!ucsd!ucbvax!PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU!GTHEALL From: GTHEALL@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU (George A. Theall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro Subject: Rainbow EchoMail Digest Message-ID: <9008251218.AA06015@remote.dccs.upenn.edu> Date: 25 Aug 90 13:19:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 240 Rainbow EchoMail Digest Aug 25, 1990 In this issue: RE: MORE INFO ON MY NEW ' (2 messages) RE: DEC MONITOR INQUIRY RE: CACHE PROGRAM (2 messages) TRANSLATION (2 messages) RAINBOW HARD DISK CLUSTER RE: WINDOWS 3.0 DEC & LAWSUITS Articles posted to either INFO-DEC-MICRO or comp.sys.dec.micro are currently gatewayed to the Rainbow Echo on FidoNet. You do not need to take special action to respond to articles in these digests. Please send reports of problems or suggestions for improvement of this digest to GTHEALL@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU (Internet). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 08-23-90 (07:08) To: CHRISTOPHER WROTEN Subject: RE: MORE INFO ON MY NEW ' From: DON MARQUART > If it works out, yes, a trade for the graphics board > would be ok. But first, I want to make sure that both > of them work. Any idea how I can prove they both work? I'm not really worried about the graphics boards working as I have only seen one that was broken in the past and the owner probably broke it:-). The trade was meant more to help you get setup and running as cheaply as possible than for the trade. If you need the memory adapter just forward your address and I'll be happy to send you the board. Send the graphics board whenever you are confortable. Later... PS; Just checked the back messages and found your address, will go ahead and ship the adapter soon. - --- ConfMail V4.00 * Origin: Club Micro * CompuMatch (303)973-8578 (1:104/888) ------------------------------ Date: 08-22-90 (07:36) To: DON MARQUART Subject: RE: DEC MONITOR INQUIRY From: DAVID HEID I will let you know shortly. I personally looked at the new Monitor and (I opened the box) it has several heatshrinked manuals and stuff in the box as well as a power cable. As far as I could tell the box had never been opened as everything was still 'squeaky clean' :-) - --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 ------------------------------ Date: 08-24-90 (01:17) To: BILL MAYHEW Subject: RE: CACHE PROGRAM From: CARL HOUSEMAN Gack! IANAL???? Is this a new standard conferencing abbreviation? ITMAMBIGI. (It took me a moment but I got it). What we need in this country is some precedent setting case that passes ownership of the software to the licensees in the event that the licensor stops selling new licenses. But this probably won't happen until the consumer protection groups attack the software business. - --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md - 301-622-2247 ------------------------------ Date: 08-24-90 (01:49) To: ALL Subject: TRANSLATION From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS How do i write a file from the IBM PC to the rainbow?? I have a copy of rainbow MS-DOS that i would like to try to set up a BBS in. I don't know the rainbow at all nor do i know what model it is except to say that it has an original equipemnt 10 meg (full height) drive made by Seagaet (st-412 i think). - --- TAGMAIL v2.20 * Origin: The Moose's Den2 (HST/V.32) (1:130/35) ------------------------------ Date: 08-22-90 (18:28) To: JOHN CONNOLLY Subject: RAINBOW HARD DISK CLUSTER From: FRANK MALLORY JC> Can anyone recommend a program and/or procedure for changing the JC> cluster size (presently 2k) on a non-system disk partition? I waste JC> quite a bit of space on *.MSG BBS files that are typically less than JC> 1k. It's a function of DOS, and I don't think there is any way to change it on the Rainbow. The best solution would be BBS software that maintains messages in a database rather than as separate files. - --- msged 1.99L MSC * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md. - 301-622-2247 ------------------------------ Date: 08-22-90 (18:36) To: BILL MAYHEW Subject: RE: WINDOWS 3.0 From: FRANK MALLORY BM>> Is it anticipated that v3.0 will be usable on a non-Turbow Rainbow? BM> BM>Depends on your definition of "usable", Frank. If you're into lots of BM>long coffee breaks, yes. If you want to accomplish something productive, BM>probably not. (Above is based on hearsay, but is eminently believable.) The only use I have for it at this point is to allow me to run a decent DTP program (e.g., Ventura Publisher or Aldus Pagemaker) on my Rainbow. What do you think? - --- msged 1.99L MSC * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md. - 301-622-2247 ------------------------------ Date: 08-22-90 (18:42) To: CHRISTOPHER WROTEN Subject: RE: MORE INFO ON MY NEW ' From: FRANK MALLORY CW> You misunderstood my question. I'm trying to make sure CW> my two graphic boards work, not the potentially swapped CW> memory board. I need some way to *know* that the graphic CW> boards work as they are supposed to, before I consider CW> swapping one of them for the memory adaptor board. That's easier. Just plug each in and run one of the many ReGIS graphics programs (e.g., SCRAM) that is available for the Rainbow. There's a pretty good graphics demo program here (GALLRY11.ZIP) that could be used, also. - --- msged 1.99L MSC * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md. - 301-622-2247 ------------------------------ Date: 08-23-90 (00:18) To: PAUL ROBINSON Subject: RE: CACHE PROGRAM From: CARL HOUSEMAN re: Any contract ... ends if either of the parties 'dies.' I sure hope you have a law degree! What you've said, is that if a company goes bankrupt, that any agreed to software license is null & void. You didn't say it explicitly, but I'd infer then, that copying and distribution of the software, formerly restricted by license, is no longer restricted. Agreed? Now, what about companies that don't file chapter 11 - instead they just stop manufacturing or selling licenses for the software. The party issuing the license may not have 'died,' but they are for all intents and purposes, dead from the customer's point of view. Any legal opinion? - --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md - 301-622-2247 ------------------------------ Date: 08-24-90 (07:36) To: GEORGE THEALL Subject: DEC & LAWSUITS From: PAUL OLSON I don't know George. You haven't seen my original technical documentation set I received with my 'bow when I ordered it six years ago! ;-) . I know that I was soooooo furious with it that I wrote DEC a letter describing their documentation as "looking like notes written on the back of a bar napkin with a swizzle stick dipped in soy sauce by a soused techweenie". Of course, I didn't receive a reply. I didn't have a good set of tech docs until I joined up with WARUG and obtained a copy from Caroline. I was _very_ disappointed with the original tech docs, especially coming from a VAX background. . Just thought I'd give you a laugh. 8-) As Always, Paul - --- ConfMail V3.31 * Origin: The Pot of Gold - (703-359-6549) (1:109/103) ------------------------------ Date: 08-25-90 (08:00) To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS Subject: TRANSLATION From: GEORGE THEALL JD>How do i write a file from the IBM PC to the rainbow?? There are a variety of approaches you could take. In no particular order they are: - - Assuming you really do have a PC (and not an AT or better) as well as a double density disk, you might be able to use a single-sided double density floppy to transfer files. You must format the floppy (FORMAT A: /1) on the PC and turn MEDIACHK ON on the Rainbow (MEDIACHK is included as part of the Rainbow's DOS). It works on most, but not all machines. For files >160K you'll need something like SPLIT to break files into smaller chunks. - - You could connect both machines via some type of network/phone line/null modem cable and then use a program like Kermit to transfer the files. - - You could purchase a hardware device called an I-Drive. This would allow you to read from/write to regular PC floppies. A variety of models exist: 5.25" DD; 5.25" HD, etc... This is by far the simplest approach, but does entail some cost. - - If there's a 1.2MB drive in your IBM (clone) machine, then you should get a hold of a device driver called RX50. Written by Robert Morse, it installs in your IBM machine and makes one of your drives look like an RX50 as well as a regular 1.2MB drive. You refer to the IBM version as, say, A:, and the RX50 version as, say, D:. This approach works quite reliably but does require your machine have a 286/386/486 chip. George ------------------------------