Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!decwrl!ucbvax!PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU!GTHEALL From: GTHEALL@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU (George A. Theall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro Subject: Rainbow EchoMail Digest Message-ID: <9008262334.AA13755@remote.dccs.upenn.edu> Date: 27 Aug 90 00:35:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 218 Rainbow EchoMail Digest Aug 26, 1990 In this issue: RE: HARDDISC RE: KILO, MEGA,ETC. TRANSLATION RAINBO WORKSCLOCK (2 messages) RE: TECO FORRAINBOW? RE: CACHEPROGRAM (2 messages) Articles posted to either INFO-DEC-MICRO or comp.sys.dec.micro are currently gatewayed to the Rainbow Echo on FidoNet. You do not need to take special action to respond to articles in these digests. Please send reports of problems or suggestions for improvement of this digest to GTHEALL@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU (Internet). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 08-22-90 (18:50) To: ALL Subject: RE: HARDDISC From: FRANK ZSITVAY In article <450.26D12696.@techbks1.FIDONET.ORG> David.Hughes@f67.n128.z1.FIDONET.ORG (David Hughes) writes: >Hi all, I have an ST225. Tried the RB hard disc utility to low level and >format the disc, but I kept getting errors about sector 0 bad. > >I took it to an IBM machine and promptly low leveled it, fdisk and formatted >it with a system, and it booted fine. > >Could this be a cable or controller problem. Are there jumper settings or >seetings I do not know about to have the BR understand I am placing a 20 meg >on it? I have a 10 meg on it now, but it errors out after about 2/3rds of the >hard disk integrity test. > >Thoughts? oh i hope your hard disk controller doesn't have the same problem mine has. that's pretty much the same way mine died, except it wouldn't even work on a 10 meg drive. i don't know a whole lot about the rainbow hard disk system, but if your controller is dead, you have my sympathies possible thought - some ibms use a twist in the cable and have the drive select on the drives set the same for both drives. is your drive select jumper on the drive set to drive 2?? from what i understand,, the jumper has to be on drive select 1 for the rainbow. check that, and hope that that's the only problem. - -- fzsitvay@techbook.COM - one of these days i'll get it right... Version 2 of anything is usually the version that works. - --- QM v1.00 * Origin: TECHbooks One, Fido Gate to techbook (503) 644-8135 ------------------------------ Date: 08-23-90 (23:34) To: DAVID MAROUN Subject: RE: KILO, MEGA,ETC. From: GARY STEBBINS > DM: not 1024 * 1024. You will often see writers take '256 k' as > DM: equivalent to '256 thousand' and 'megabyte' as equivalent to > DM: '1000 k' ... Well, yes and no. In the engineering world, kilo means 1000 and mega means 1,000,000. But the computing world has it's own standards. I have seen a "pseudo-standard" documented many years ago - before the time of mega-bytes - that said "k" meant kilo=1000, and "K" meant computing-kilo=1024. In the computing world, I've never seen "mega" mean anything other than 1024*1024. Since "m" is taken as milli, "M" must mean either 1,000,000 or 1024*1024 (1,048,576), depending on context. - -gary- - --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (1:343/3.0) ------------------------------ Date: 08-24-90 (21:24) To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS Subject: TRANSLATION From: FRANK MALLORY JD> of rainbow MS-DOS that i would like to try to set up a BBS in. I don't JD> know the rainbow at all nor do i know what model it is except to say JD> that it has an original equipemnt 10 meg (full height) drive made by JD> Seagaet (st-412 i think). You have three basic choices: 1) If you have Kermit for both, run an RS232 cable from serial port of the PC to COMM port of the Rainbow and transfer them that way. 2) If your PC has a 1.2MB HD drive, you can get a utility program that will let you write to a Rainbow-format diskette. 3) You can format diskettes single-sided on the PC and use BACKUP to copy from the PC; then set MEDIACHK ON on the Rainbow and RESTORE from those diskettes. - --- msged 1.99L MSC * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md. - 301-622-2247 (1:109/417) ------------------------------ Date: 08-25-90 (08:10) To: GEORGE THEALL Subject: RAINBO WORKSCLOCK From: FRANK MALLORY GT> forget his last name offhand) died several years ago; it was never a GT> big business (only a couple of employees), and the business died with GT> him. GT> GT> The clock card they sold was OK, but the ClikClok that Suitable GT> Solutions sold was better - takes less space in the machine and GT> generally seems to have fewer problems. The RBW clock was the first to be sold for the Rainbow. It was pretty much superceded by the ClikClok, but I think it does have a few capabilities not included in the latter. I got a RBW clock soon after they came out, and it has been working flawlessly ever since. - --- msged 1.99L MSC * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md. - 301-622-2247 (1:109/417) ------------------------------ Date: 08-25-90 (10:46) To: BRIAN TREADWAY Subject: RE: TECO FORRAINBOW? From: PAUL ROBINSON for UNIX on a PDP-11. The one you may be interested in is a version of TECO written in "C" for MS/DOS. If you have or can get access to a C compiler, you can use it. - --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md - 301-622-2247 ------------------------------ Date: 08-25-90 (11:38) To: CARL HOUSEMAN Subject: RE: CACHEPROGRAM From: PAUL ROBINSON supplies or supports your program. On the other hand, a company that goes out of business without a successor or assignee, is 'dead' and thus any contract with it dies. If you have a contract with someone to paint your house, and he stops doing painting because of a back injury, he is still there, but can't perform the contract. If he dies, he's dead. That's the difference. Or he decides to sell his painting equipment and retire. He's still there even though he can't solve your problem of an umpainted house. - --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md - 301-622-2247 ------------------------------ Date: 08-25-90 (15:36) To: PAUL ROBINSON Subject: RE: CACHEPROGRAM From: FRANK MALLORY PR> supplies or supports your program. On the other hand, a company that PR> goes out of business without a successor or assignee, is 'dead' and PR> thus any contract with it dies. So if the owner of the RainboWorks clock program is dead, and there is no successor, there should be no legal problem making it available here. But let's consider the hypothetical case in which he ISN'T dead. The (shrink-wrap) "contract" is still in force. This particular software item was furnished as an adjunct to a hardware item (viz., clock). Without the software, the hardware has no value, and vice versa. Now it happened that a legal owner conveyed the hardware (plugged into a Rainbow) but failed to convey the software, through oversight or whatever. Question: wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that the party to whom the hardware was conveyed has the right to avail himself of a copy of the software offered by another party? - --- msged 1.99L MSC * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md. - 301-622-2247 (1:109/417) ------------------------------ Date: 08-25-90 (22:44) To: GEORGE THEALL Subject: RAINBO WORKSCLOCK From: DON MARQUART > From: rti!bcw@mcnc.org (Bruce Wright) Organization: Research Triangle > Institute, RTP, NC > Rainbo Works is definitely out of business. The owner (Don ??? - I forget > his last name offhand) died several years ago; it was never a big business > (only a couple of employees), and the business died with him. Wasn't that Don Braun? Used to run his BBS on a Rainbow with a Corvus "Data Safe" (120 meg tape drive) and hard disk. Haven't talked to him since going to California about distributing the RB Link (big mistake). And yes, you are correct in that he did pass away some time ago. Later... - --- ConfMail V4.00 * Origin: Club Micro * CompuMatch (303)973-8578 (1:104/888) ------------------------------