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From: wilber@aludra.usc.edu (John Wilber)
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Subject: Re: Norton Utils and Excel
Summary: Some possible Answers
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Date: 21 Aug 90 19:51:29 GMT
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In article <1538@ntmtv.UUCP> takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi) writes:
>I've finally gotten a copy of the Norton Utilities for the Mac!!
>It seems to work okay, except...

>When running Microsoft Excel 1.5, I've run across the following
>problems:
>   1) Disk access seems to be alot slower.  (Actually may not be
>       a problem...could be FileSaver doing something...not quite
>       sure about this one yet).

It sounds like you might be REALLY filling up your memory with lots of
inits and causing lots of thrashing.  How many inits do you have loaded?
Which ones are they?  I would suggest that you try removing a few of the 
Non-Norton inits and see if the problem goes away.

>   2) Chart files that used to run in Excel now seem to generate
>       "Out of Memory" errors.  This message is random, and cannot
>       be reliably reproduced.

Again, this sounds like maybe you have just overloaded your system 
with inits.  What's the situation here?

>   3) The Mac crashes randomly (ID=02).

I had a similar problem with DiskLight for a while which turned out
to be a bad version of Backgrounder in my system folder (it had a different
version than the rest of my system stuff).  Try checking that out.

>Of the Norton Inits running, I have the FileSaver, the "Activity
>Light", and the init that puts up options in Open Dialog boxes.
>(Sure wish I could remember the names of all of them...)

>As of this point, I haven't isolated the cause of these problems
>yet, but I was wondering if anyone had already run into similar
>problems using Norton Utils and Excel 1.5.

Another experiment you should try is changing the order in which your
non-norton inits are loaded.  Remember, some inits out there do 
nasty things that can be revealed by "good citizen" inits like Norton's.
I am also curious about whether you are running multifinder.  Does the
problem persist when you are running "unifinder"?

Good luck!