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From: msc@ramoth.esd.sgi.com (Mark Callow)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.news
Subject: Re: Open Windows 2.0 released (Sun press release)
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Date: 21 Aug 90 15:41:52 GMT
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In article <11722@hoptoad.uucp>, gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) writes:
|> So far I haven't seen the good nEws reported in this newsgroup...  not
|> only is OW 2.0 shipping today, but it's also included as a standard
|> part of the OS on the new SPARCstation IPC.  Way to go Sun!  Thanks for
|> listening...and responding.

That they are giving it away is good news but read on ...

|> 
|> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> 		FAST NEW 3-D OPEN LOOK NOW AVAILABLE FROM SUN 
|>    
|> SunFLASH Vol 19 #20					 	July 1990 
|> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|>  
|> 	  OpenWindows Included Free With New SPARCstation
|>  
|> NEW YORK --July 25, 1990-- Sun Microsystems today introduced a new
|> 
|> Three toolkits, XView, OLIT and TNT(TM), are available to develop
|> OPEN LOOK applications.  The TNT toolkit is used to develop
|> PostScript-based applications for NeWS.  All toolkits give the user a
|> consistent look and feel.
|> 

The last sentence is an outright lie.  The TNT toolkit does not have
the new pseudo 3d appearance.  This is just part of what makes NeWS
an obviously second class citizen in OW 2.0.  The poor set of demos is
another thing that contributes.  Only roundclock and the calculator
look nice.  Even PageView, which should be the premier NeWS application,
seems lacking.  It has lost the random page access feature of psview.
Mind you the X demos aren't much better.  A final pointer to NeWS 2nd
class citizenship is that the default window manager "olwm" is an X
window manager.

I'm very disappointed at the lack of progress NeWS.  From the demos
it looks like not much has changed since NeWS 1.0 (yes I do mean NeWS
1.0, I don't mean X11/NeWS 1.0).
--
From the TARDIS of Mark Callow
msc@ramoth.sgi.com, ...{ames,decwrl}!sgi!msc
"There is much virtue in a window.  It is to a human being as a frame is to
a painting, as a proscenium to a play.  It strongly defines its content."