Path: utzoo!utstat!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!math.lsa.umich.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!lavaca.uh.edu!uhnix1!sugar!ficc!peter From: peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) Newsgroups: news.software.b Subject: Re: Passing on unwanted groups Message-ID: <4.B5C74@xds13.ferranti.com> Date: 20 Aug 90 14:19:29 GMT References: <1990Aug15.164651.26664@zoo.toronto.edu> <49281@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> <1990Aug16.163107.1166@zoo.toronto.edu> <49289@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> <1990Aug17.155959.1331@zoo.toronto.edu> <1990Aug20.011536.3323@zoo.toronto.edu> Reply-To: peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) Organization: Xenix Support, FICC Lines: 24 In article <1990Aug20.011536.3323@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: > In article peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes: > >Huh? It's hard to determine the login name, but it's easy enough to determine > >if you've got the same user ID as a known login (such as the news owner). > From C; it's decidedly awkward from the shell. So use a C program. > And we made a decision some > time ago that we are not especially interested in defending ourselves against > sysadmins who don't know what they're doing. (We rate ignorance of basic > notions of file ownership and permissions as such.) And this is why people are reluctant to move to C news from B news. > >Or do what I do, chown all the files after creating them. > Apart from being a nuisance, this assumes that there is a portable syntax > for chown, which there isn't. Huh? Where is there a UNIX system where "chown $NEWSMASTER $NEWSCTL/active" won't work? Sure, some places allow the extension "chown user.group file..." but you don't need to do that for this. -- Peter da Silva. `-_-' +1 713 274 5180. 'U` peter@ferranti.com (currently not working) peter@hackercorp.com